What's your next tablet going to be?
Personally I'm not sure what my next tablet will be yet. I've been using the Motorola Xoom for the past week, and while Honeycomb is a little rough around the edges and the tablet-specific app selection is still pretty paltry, I do think it's off to a promising start (I especially like the browser and having a dedicated Gmail app).
I'm still divided about the iPad 2. It definitely does address some of my biggest complaints about the original iPad, like its paltry 256MB of RAM and lack of a front facing camera, but the prospect of an iPad 3 with a better screen being released before the end of this year does give me pause.
I did get to play with the PlayBook a couple of days ago, and was impressed with how responsive it was, but it definitely felt like it's meant to be paired with a BlackBerry (at least to take full advantage of its capabilities). And like a lot of people I've got my eye on the HP TouchPad, which hopefully we won't have to wait too long for.
Do you have your eye on a specific tablet or are you waiting to see what the second half of 2011 might bring? Or are you skeptical of this whole tablet thing altogether?
In comparing the iPad to the Motorola Xoom, I have the following observations:
1. For $600, you get the 32GB WiFi (sans cellular radio) version of either one.
2. The Xoom definitely has a better camera on the back, 5MP vs. 720p (~1MP) on the iPad2.
3. The Xoom has 1GB RAM. We do not know how much RAM the iPad2 has. Given that Apple is trying to keep prices low by using the camera from iPod Touch (4th gen.) instead of the iPhone4's, I'd lean towards 512MB RAM rather than 1GB.
4. If Motorola developer website is to be believed, and there is no error there, the WiFi-only Xoom does support proper GPS (see developer.motorola.com/products/xoom-mz604/). Given that the Xoom has a barometer in it, I wouldn't doubt that Motorola put a dedicated GPS chip in there somewhere as well.
Yes, I know the iPad has an extensive app catalog numbering somewhere around 65k, but that's irrelevant to me because I use a maximum of like 10 apps in any given week, and most if not all of these apps or close analogs are available on Android phones as well. Even if these Android phone apps do not scale well to the Xoom's larger screen, I'll bet that tablet-optimized versions will be out sooner rather than later.
As far as games are concerned, I don't do much gaming on anything not a laptop or a desktop; all my games are in Steam. So that point is moot.
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HP seems to get this. The Touchpad has one front-facing camera for video chat and that's it. Now if the Pre³ has a great rear camera, problem solved! Just tap the Touchpad and the Pre³ to instantly transfer a photo. I use Bump to do this between my Nexus One and my iPad.
You do know that the camera on the back of the iPad2 is probably the 960×720 (read: 0.7MP) camera on the iPod Touch (4th gen.), not 5MP like the iPhone4. If you read the specs on Apple's website for all three devices, only the iPhone4's specs mentions the megapixel rating; for the iPod touch (4th gen.) and iPad2, the spec reads 720p video. Ryan Block got a hands on during the iPad2 launch event and seems to agree. See goo.gl/5R1lf
I use my iPad a lot out in the field for data collection. Part of this job is to take photos of what I am documenting. Right now, I use my Nexus One as a camera; I send the photos to the iPad using Bump (bu.mp). This is a very cumbersome solution to what I want to do because it takes the following steps:
1. On Nexus One, take a photo.
2. On Nexus One, open Bump and locate photo to attach.
3. On iPad, quit/suspend the database app and open Bump.
4. Bump the two devices and wait for transfer to complete.
5. Open database app in iPad, locate photo in the photo roll, and attach to database record.
Using the iPhone4 as a camera wouldn't make things any better. If there was a decent camera on the iPad2, I could just take a photo from within the database app instead of going through the convoluted and inefficient process I outlined above. I need the 5MP camera to preserve details in the photo because many times the photo needs to be cropped to exclude details that are not required. The 0.7MP rear camera on the iPad2 just doesn't cut it. This is why I said that I would upgrade to the iPad2 if it had a better camera on the back. It might be awkward to use it as a camera, but there are edge-cases where it is actually more useful than the alternatives. What I described above might be a very niche use case for the iPad.
If there was an SD card slot or a USB port on the iPad, I could just pop in the SD card from my P&S camera or connect using USB to transfer the photos. Carrying around the camera connection kit is too much of a hassle. I've already lost 2 and I'm on my third kit right now. The camera connection kit is a kludge to reduce parts/bill of materials cost of the iPad. The same can be said about the HDMI dock connector and the sub-par cameras on the iPad2.
Not trolling here, but …
Since you are so concerned about potential privacy exploits, do you do anything about the microphone in your Macbook Pro? A little green light turns on to let you know that the camera is on. There is no such feedback for the microphone. I have the same concern for iOS devices. There is no indication if the app you are running is recording/monitoring audio from the microphone (unless on iOS, the app supports multitasking and you see the red bar on the top when you switch to a different app).
I would rather HP have just waited till the tablet was about a month from release and then announced it. I think a lot of people whoa are in the market for a tablet would like to get a touchpad, but will get an iPad instead because it's already out.
The price is another HUGE factor. As long as iPad is cheaper, it will always outsell the others.
Also, I think everyone has a somewhat clearer picture of what to expect from Apple in the next version of iOS. With any luck, we'll see a revamp of the notifications system, wifi syncing, &c., but stability and snappiness is basically guaranteed… much more "certain" than wherever BlackBerry and WebOS will head. In my view, the only really compelling featureset that is lacking on iOS at present is tight integration with google services—i.e. native apps for them as Android has.
How many years will it be before there's a full-blown Garageband equivalent for Android tablets? As a guitar player, I'd love the recording, selection of stomp boxes, and exporting tracks.
I'm a self-admitted Apple fan, but I also see an annoying arrogance that they know best and absolutely no ability to admit they might be wrong. In today's always on information stream it would be refreshing to hear Apple say they missed the mark on mobile notifications and they are working on making it awesome. Maybe this will be Apple 4.0 ... the post-Jobs era ... when they can be more open and honest with their customers and really build that cult follwoing.
It's not just for the iOS either. It is silly that Growl is still necessary in OSX
iPad 2 looks great, I love the faster processor and cameras, but the way I use my iPad, I'm not sure if speed and cameras will benefit me that much. So thankfully I have a full week to consider an iPad 2 purchase, cause I'm not sure yet what I'll do.
I kind of think the new cover is dumb. I like that they're trying to keep it thin, but I've used the basic Apple case for my iPad 1 since day 1 and have no problems with the case. For iPad 2, I'd rather have a full case that protects the front and back.
I got a hold of one and love it. Win7 and Wacom digitizer so it can run "applications, not apps". Loaded Photoshop, Lightroom and Turbo CAD and still a bit of room left on the SSD. This slate is used for production, mostly my mobile photo lab, I merge several images into panoramas as a hobby.
And for the consumption, I have a "nootered" NOOKColor running Autonooter and also Honeycomb by Deeper-blue.
Love them both!
I played with the XOOM and iOS is so much smoother and refined compared to Android Honeycomb that I don't see any Android tablet in my future anytime soon.
The tablets at 7" are just laughable and DOA in my opinion, especially if they can't significantly beat the iPad price points.
The HP TouchPad looks interesting but it is more like the iPad without a decent ecosystem behind it. Also, I can get iPad v2 next week… the TouchPad is months away.
WebOS is a fine OS, but it has failed to fire up the developer community. I was a long time PalmOS user (IIIx through the Treo 680), right up until launch day of the Droid. I watched Palm shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly, starting with OS6, and was very skeptical before the WebOS/Pre launch. And everything I said that would probably happen to keep it from catching on - did. The only thing I didn't predict was HP snapping them up - but I'm less than convinced HP will be able to make a success out of WebOS on their own. Don't get me wrong, I think the developers did a fine job with WebOS, it is just cursed with bad timing and the tepid launch support from Palm and Sprint was a heavy blow it has yet to recover from.
The TouchPad is really an unknown. Blackberry has some apps, but nothing like iOS or Android, and it remains to be seen how well developers take to the TouchPad en masse. As well as rumors about Android-app compatibility, etc. But still, the primary focus is on Blackberry users.
So it is iOS vs. Android for me - and I'm already and Android user and fan, and not a big fan of some of the decisions Apple has made. I don't like their restrictive 'We know what's good for you" app store policies. I don't care for the 30% vig they're taking on subscriptions. While I think a migration away from Flash is a good thing, I think it is a long-term migration and I want Flash support today. I'm not happy with stunts they've pulled like telling devs what tools they need to use to make apps, even if they reversed it later - it left a bad taste. I don't like their opposition to apps that 'compete' with built-in iPhone features, as if their designs are the best possible and no one could possibly prefer another option - choice is good. And I don't like having one choice in hardware - oh, I can have it in black or white.
I think it is pretty clear where my sympathies lay. I'm very likely to pick up an Android tablet in the next few months. Right now the Motorola Xoom is the front-runner, but the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 looks good too. I'm planning to give them a little time to shake out, and see what pricing, etc, settles in at. With the iPad 2 out there it may put some pressure on pricing. I'm also currently on Verizon with my Droid, having jumped ship from AT&T when it launched. I'm most likely to stick with Verizon since my coverage and service has been good - better than I was getting with AT&T on my Treo 680 - but my Droid is up for renewal in July and I'll shop around to see what phones are out there, which may mean switching carriers - and that could influence my tablet choice.
My next choice is probably an Android tablet and matching phone. I bought a cheepo Archos 101 to hold me over in the tablet world and while I like the Android tablet and don't have too many problems without specifically tablet designed apps I know it isn't up to par... yet... without Honeycomb. Once I have a chance to play with Honeycomb on a new device that might sway me to one of the Android offerings.
Last, there's always Apple. I've always loved my computers and iPods, but I'm unreasonably adverse to moving to iPad/iPhone land... not sure why.
Blackberry? Yeah I tried that and like it, but I'm not terribly interested in a 7in tablet and I'm not sold on the phones.
My POP e-mail and my Google calendar run everywhere. My WiFi network lets me share PDF files easily. I've become used to the multiplatform life. If Pre3 doesn't come to Sprint, I'll probably be getting to an Android phone! With a mobile hotspot included!!
The iPad2 looks like an attractive upgrade to me. And my wife needs the hand me down (or maybe buy 2 iPad 2s and sell the ol' iPad).
The only iPad competitor I find myself tempted by is the HP TouchPad with its fantastic GUI that rivals iOS. However, given the lack of apps and likely high price point, I doubt it will get significant traction in the market. A shame considering I think it kicks the snot out of any Honeycomb tablet I've seen online.
Just want to add that I've been attempting to replace my laptop with the iPad and a desktop at home. So far, so good. I'm beginning to become a believer with some that a day may come when tablets overtake laptops and perhaps all "computers" as we know them today (Blasphamy!).
Dont just see the hardware. See the apps and the user interface. Moreover on how it works and the ease of work.
Seeing these, ipad can be the only winner
Hmm... Looks like the iPad 2!
Yep, I'll be ordering on the 11th, or sooner. One for myself, and one for my wife.
Despite the limiting frustrations of the iPad (mostly lack of flexible control over data files), I've been very happy with it and I use it all the time.
Sorry. Call me sheep but I use my iPad mostly for web browsing, book reading, light writing and preparation and of keynote presentations. The screen mirroring is a cinch for me.
The Xoom barely keeps up with the iPad 1 in web browsing.
Do any of the other tabs even screen mirrors or has software like iMovie or GarageBand?
Apple really did it right with the stores. You walk in and see iMovie running on an iPad presented beautifully among MacBook airs and pros. in comparison you have the one dirty broken Xoom in the corner of a best buy. Exactly where apple was 15 years ago, and we know how well that was working. I'm not saying it is necessarily a good thing but such is the state of the industry at this point.
The other nice thing about Honeycomb's browser is how it syncs with Chrome on your desktop.
1. Xoom ships with a movie editor. iMovie for the iPad isn't out yet.
2. Continuing that thought, Garageband for iPad isn't out yet IIRC.
3. Xoom has an HDMI port which will _probably_ let you mirror your display. Can someone confirm this?
Hold your horses!
note to self: curb your enthusiasm ^_^
Re: Keynote, see https://market.android.com/search?q=powerpoint&...
I hope you find the links helpful.
In the end I will be going with the iPad 2. It has the most of what I want right now. I want Netflix, Hulu, AirVideo, so on. Streaming video has yet to be realized on Android and that worries me a bit. My tablet needs are not the same as my phone needs, so it's likely I won't be using iOS on anything but a tablet in a couple months.
My hope is that with HP taking over, there will be a much larger developer base for webOS. I fully intend on getting an HP Touchpad, because I love the multiple card interface, as well as the phone-to-tablet interaction.
Somewhere around the iPad 3 there might be enough A5 only apps to make the switch worth it.
Based on that quote, I wouldn't rule out any of Apple's product plans for the balance of the year till the year is actually over!
While I WANT a tablet of some kind, I don't see anywhere in my work flow/daily life where a tablet would be able to fulfill a need that my laptop (Alienware m11x), cellphone (Droid 2, rooted), and e-reader (nook classic) don't already do and better. I am almost always near wifi, and my m11x has a new momentus XT in it, so boot times are very fast, and the battery can last as long as 6.5 hours. The e-reader is much more capable in terms of reading in multiple areas, given the light conditions, and is much more comfortable to hold than almost any of the tablets I have handled. And my Droid does (no pun intended?) any last-minute look-ups I have to do on the road or before a meeting.
As much as the inner Star Trek, Padd-loving geek in me wants to get a tablet (leaning toward the Xoom or ipad 2), I just don't see myself actually using it.
I also tend to look at things from the enterprise level. Sure Apple isn't the most enterprise friendly company to deal with. However, their gear offers very little fuss once you have it setup. We constantly fight with our Android based phones, for upgrades etc.
As a CIO I'm looking for a product that works and one that doesn't create more administrative overhead. Apple has hit the nail on the head IMO. Android is still swinging.
Too obsessed with gadgets not too. I do have one remark about this comment though, and also about every other news/blog/pundit.
Why would you make a decision about a tablet based on one spec (in this case RAM). The most important part about a device is how the hardware and software interact to complete a harmonious interface. I own the iPad 1, and I have never said to myself .... "This thing needs more memory". Even if it is lower, the operating system does a great job of managing it, and that is all that matters. That being said, when the new iOS came out, and essentially made the iPhone 3G a brick, I certainly said "This thing needs more something, whether it's a faster chip, or more RAM, is beyond my assessment".
But that hardware is cheap & has some serious problems. The keyboard is extremely cramped & difficult to use, but was made even worse by the buffering problems it had (at least on the Verizon version). Moreover, people are spoiled by the number of pixels available on most smart phones today so a tiny Blackberry-sized screen isn't going to be compelling.
The iPad 2 is nice in a lot of ways, but it's still 3G and still 1024x768, which is enough to stop current iPad owners from upgrading because they (we) all know 4G versions of iPad will be available later this year. What are the chances the ONLY difference will be the radio?
Having played with Xoom, it's a nice enough device but seriously overpriced considering the competition. It's geek-oriented and all the people buying iPads so far have been "lifestyle" buyers -- they want that "user experience" at which Apple is so adept.
Moreover, iPad 2 will be available on multiple networks. No need to get AT&T just because that's the only choice available. Therefore no need to go Android when what you REALLY want is iOS.
If the Xoom were $199 they'd have a shot. If Palm/HP can market properly, doesn't screw up the hardware, and gets more apps, they've got a shot. Outside of those or some surprise device later in the year, it's going to be iPad leading the way for 2011.
My Dad, on the other hand, has replaced 90% of his computer use with iPad use.
All that said, I think if I do end up getting a proper tablet at some point, I would be looking at the 7" options so I could fit it in my cargo pockets. I had to walk away from the Nook desk in Barnes & Noble after playing with the Nook Color because I *wanted* it, although I certainly don't *need* it.
I guess its back to waiting and seeing or I might just cave in and get the iPad 2.
If you've got a smartphone, then you've probably got a laptop. What we all want is something that meets in the middle of those two, not necessarily improved capability but at least -combined- capabilty, and certainly not a bastardized and impotent version of each device.
LAPTOP vs TABLET
A tablet carries all the pain-in-the-ass of a laptop (charging cord, some kind of carrying case, slightly unwieldy chassis) but then you trade off your keyboard and general mobile PC-application freedom (Skype, MSOffice, Adobe Acrobat, Windows Media, and let's say Kinko's Lapnet Wizard), in place of a 3g/4g "data-only" connection anywhere. Kind of nice right? Wrong! Your virtual keyboard typing is WAY worse than you think it is, and you use those few certain programs a lot more than you think (enjoying putting graphics in your Word Docs on Google Docs?).
SMARTPHONE vs TABLET
A smartphone has become somewhat of a laptop replacement for many because of the telecommunications advantage and portability - phone calls and peephole browsing -yay! A vital part of the direction devices have been going is towards a -united- computing and phone operating system. But where do tablets take this? No phone connection (at least in the USA), and typing the speed of a middle schooler who hasn't learned all the words. Huh. So, instead of having just a tablet device in place of my smartphone and laptop, I should just purchase another and keep all three?! Where is the valued added in that? Oh, and on top add ANOTHER monthly data connection cost to my bills?!
Seeing a little extra screen real estate does not offset the lost value of consolidated cell phone calls, and having anywhere internet on a less capable computer OS does not offset the cost of an entire additional monthly bill.
Tablets have neutered the previous device's capabilities they've been evolving from. For christ's sake, Android is a smartphone operating system and they're releasing versions without basic cell phone ability?
LOOK WHAT'S COMING IF YOU WAIT
Virtual keyboards are about to get amazing (this may be why iPad 3 is coming so soon), intuitive, easy typing without thinking:
To a much lesser extent, SwiftKey/TouchType goo.gl/LffDV
Hurry up your negotiations please, it's been almost 6 months.......
And phone connection for tablets will be "allowed" again at some point, they keep saying Android OS Ice Cream Sandwich will "converge" tablet with phone ability, but it simply means the greedy carriers will just be take off their own self-imposed OS restrictions that disable it. Here's a video showing how European users have connection TODAY, and even a handicapped USA tablet almost making a call (it actually has the phone interface but won't make calls...):
Samsung Galaxy Tab goo.gl/PpGrV
Motorola Xoom goo.gl/VdoCh
I understand that technology can only move along so fast but when it's purposely disabled for gain, it blows my mind and certainly diminishes any respect or loyalty for carriers. The first carrier to end this with a "smart-tablet," if you will, will be my hero, hopefully sooner rather than later..... And subsequently help me consolidate my personal and business telecommunications and data devices, respective bills, and drastically enhance my quality of digital life.
It seems like the smartest carrier would forego this charade as though $300-800 and a 2-year contract ($3670 is a lot more than a $500 laptop with Wi-Fi) is possibly worth it to purchase -part- of smartphone and -part- of a laptop, and just begin collecting hoards of customers from both the other cellular & wi-fi carriers and very likely the broadband cable/DSL internet providers (at least as soon as Netflix comes on-board a HD-output Android device).......
I really like the 7" form factor. Portability is the other key for me, and this really meets that need as well.
I also like the HP TouchPad and the HTC Flyer, especially the Flyer for the additional option for pen input.
I'm still thinking of getting an ipad or ipad 2 as a toy one day though... that new video mirroring function is nice, but its still a drag its not wireless...
It is a huge problem with 10" screens. 7" screens are more manageable.
Trust me. I've tried using my iPad as a GPS. Unless you put a hood around it, it is unusable 99% of the time when you need it.
Before you throw out accusations on factual information, you might do some research. I've spent much of my life in electronic and audio engineering and have a number of credentials in the field.
Apple believes if you really want great audio experience from their portable iDevices, you're going to stream it via Airplay to a home stereo system or one of the growing number of bookshelf speaker systems supporting Airplay (ex. B&W Zeppelins or iHome systems).
When I travel, and I know I'm going to want semi-good audio without using my Etymotic ear buds, I carry my rechargeable iHM78s from iHome Audio.
I completely agree that the sound should be much better on the iPad. Every time we watch a movie on it, I wish it was better. However slapping a "stereo" label on it would not make it better.
Of course you're probably always in landscape when watching video.
While I really hate the restrictions of iOS and I like android, there are certain apps that are the whole reason for me to have a tablet and I can't get them on android and even though I'm sure at some point they will show up that might be years in some cases or never. The apps I have in mind are Skype (with video support), Netflix, and much bigger selection of apps for kids that are optimized for a tablet.
Second thing is the price and size, while there are cheaper tablets like Archos 101 which is also very small and light it is really underpowered and will probably never run honeycomb, other tablets like Xoom are just more expensive. And even though there will be a wifi only Xoom for $600 which is the same as 32GB iPad 2 it is much thicker and heavier than the iPad and one thing that is important to me is weight since I have arthritis and holding a device this size for longer periods of time is difficult for me.
When it comes to other tablets like HP touchpad and Blackberry Playbook even though they look very interesting and capable they are still months away and their app ecosystem will be a big disadvantage with no guarantees it will ever grow to be ever useful.
If other companies want to compete with the iPad they need to get cheaper because they will probably never match the overall hardware design of apple. The only way I will buy a device like a tablet or laptop that is bigger is if its cheaper or has a big software advantage and that's why Windows laptops still outsell MacBooks by a wide margin, not because they are better but because they are a lot cheaper.
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