I just want to know how many MAC users would love to use ZUNE HD on their MACs? Since microsoft is not saying anything about ZUNE HD for MAC or MAC support i just want you guys to ask ask ask microS to do it... please...
If you like zune HD and want it to be there please kick some keys and write how much you want ZUNE HD to work on your MAC .. :)
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If Mac is insignificant to Microsoft, than why MS is making Office, Live Mesh, and Silverlight for the Mac? ZuneHD is probably the only consumer electronic device from MS that has attracted many interest from the Mac community. I don't think it's about marketshare. It's about the music store and WMA. Unlike Windows, OS X does not have built-in support for WMA, and it would be even more challenging to port the DRM for the Zune pass. Although imo it's in the best interest of MS to put Mac support for the Zune, there might be technical/licensing issues that prevented it.
That, or the reason could be as simple as Jobs saying "Hell no." :D
That, or the reason could be as simple as Jobs saying "Hell no." :D
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The problem with dual booting Windows is that all your music and files are on the Mac side of your computer. This means you must switch between OSes to download music and whatnot. The only thing that makes this easier is Bootcamp 3.0 drivers for Windows includes an HFS+ driver so you can read from your Mac partition. But still, you can't download music and stuff straight to the Mac partition. Although this method isn't too hard, it's just harder than most people would like it. I like it simple, that's why I bought a Mac in the first place.
You could also use VMWare Fusion, Parallels, or Virtual Box, but I don't like using that on my MBP because it heats up pretty fast when running CPU-intensive apps like virtualization software. Plus, I don't think it will work nearly as good as a dual boot situation.
You could also use VMWare Fusion, Parallels, or Virtual Box, but I don't like using that on my MBP because it heats up pretty fast when running CPU-intensive apps like virtualization software. Plus, I don't think it will work nearly as good as a dual boot situation.
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Honestly while there are some people that would like a ZuneHD for mac I have the feeling that just as many Mac users could care less. In fact I'd say that they hate MS and want nothing to do with anything from MS. The only thing they like about the ZHD is it will make Apple lower their prices for the iPod Touch which they will go out and purchase. Apple has a less than 4% worldwide marketshare, I think MS needs to focus on the other 96% first than 4% of which many hate anything they produce. It's not worth the money to develop and support two platforms especially when the other brings such little ROI.
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I just want to be able to get one here in Australia.
Please please Microsoft release them here. You have Australian fan boys.
Please please Microsoft release them here. You have Australian fan boys.
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I agree, I have a MacBook Pro and iPod Touch, but have to admit the Zune HD looks pretty interesting. But, in realistic terms, Microsoft has so many other things to worry about now. However you feel about the iPod and Apple, competing with them isn't easy. Supporting two systems is going to make Microsoft deal with twice as many issues right from the start, to appeal to about 5% of consumers, most of whom are already happy with the iPod anyway. I don't think they necessarily hate Microsoft (some do I'm sure), but they've used the iPod for years, have used iTunes for years, have purchased stuff through the iTMS, etc. I like seeing devices supported by as many different OS's as possible, but Mac support should be at the bottom of the list of Microsoft's priorities.
Although it can't be that hard to at least make it show up as a removable drive, even if the desktop software doesn't have a Mac version.
Although it can't be that hard to at least make it show up as a removable drive, even if the desktop software doesn't have a Mac version.
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It isn't going to happen any time soon. Apple has such an insignificnt share of the PC market that it is not in Microsoft's interests to make software available for Macs.
Don't forget to factor in the fact that Mac users tend to not like Microsoft (else they would surely be better off paying less for a more widely compatible Windows-based computer), have a computer that is tightly integrated with other Apple products (e.g. the iPod), etc.
MS put a lot of time into updating the Zune software. They can't be expected to develop a second version of the software for a tiny group of Mac users who might want a Zune. Then there is the DRM situation with the Zune pass. WMA DRM complicates things further (though I suppose MS could easily fix that issue).
Just add Zune to the huge list of hardware and software that Macs can't work with. You made the choice to use a closed and incompatible platform, so you shouldn't complain that it isn't compatible.
Don't forget to factor in the fact that Mac users tend to not like Microsoft (else they would surely be better off paying less for a more widely compatible Windows-based computer), have a computer that is tightly integrated with other Apple products (e.g. the iPod), etc.
MS put a lot of time into updating the Zune software. They can't be expected to develop a second version of the software for a tiny group of Mac users who might want a Zune. Then there is the DRM situation with the Zune pass. WMA DRM complicates things further (though I suppose MS could easily fix that issue).
Just add Zune to the huge list of hardware and software that Macs can't work with. You made the choice to use a closed and incompatible platform, so you shouldn't complain that it isn't compatible.
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I don't think it's fair to say that Mac users just don't like Zune cuz of Microsoft. You're assuming every Mac user is a fanboy. I have a Mac, yet I would love to have a Zune HD (if I had the money and I didn't already have an iPod). I got a Mac because I wanted to try out Mac OS and I love how user friendly it is.
I think the Zune's biggest problem is just trying to get people away from iPods. iPods have basically become synonymous with music players. Not on the level of Kleenex or Frisbee, but still. People refer to their music players as iPods nowadays, and I find it hard for Microsoft to convince most people to talk about their "Zunes" instead.
I think the Zune's biggest problem is just trying to get people away from iPods. iPods have basically become synonymous with music players. Not on the level of Kleenex or Frisbee, but still. People refer to their music players as iPods nowadays, and I find it hard for Microsoft to convince most people to talk about their "Zunes" instead.
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We've wanted zune on mac since the days of the brown brick do you think it's gonna happen now?? No, however it's possible that maybe once the iPod is dead than we'll get zune on Mac. "Oh honey look at that it's ***a flying pig***"
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Actually, Microsoft makes a lot of software for Macs. Unfortunately, they have a pretty small team to develop for Mac, and I bet they don't have a time to develop for hardware devices, other than keyboards and mice. Also, there are probably political reasons within Microsoft for leaving Mac users out in the cold for certain Microsoft products. On the other hand, Microsoft is very active in terms of Office products. They will re-introduce Outlook for Mac when they come out with Mac Office 2011, and the online version of Office will work with Safari.
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Zune HD for mac, and in Canada. Please.
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Just go download the free windows 7 RC & stop complaining.
Macs are like hookers. They look nice & perform well but at the end of the day all you have is a lighter wallet.
Macs are like hookers. They look nice & perform well but at the end of the day all you have is a lighter wallet.
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its only mac people who want the HD video functionality so far and can afford both players... this is a decently substantial number of people that microsoft is shunning....
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I think people forget that Mac users tend to be on the forefront of new and shiny tech. Mac users are also people who obviously shop in the luxury side of the electronics/gadget market.
Ignoring 5% of the market that has a higher proportion of early adopters than the 95% of the market that's late adopters seems foolish to me.
I have Gen1 Unibody MacBook and a home build PC with Windows 7. There is nothing to prevent me from running a Zune HD, but should Microsoft really be ignoring beta culture people when they need us to crow about their new Zune?
Ignoring 5% of the market that has a higher proportion of early adopters than the 95% of the market that's late adopters seems foolish to me.
I have Gen1 Unibody MacBook and a home build PC with Windows 7. There is nothing to prevent me from running a Zune HD, but should Microsoft really be ignoring beta culture people when they need us to crow about their new Zune?
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no - no they should not be...
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For lack of a better place to ask this:
Is the Zune HD supposed to come with the premium headphones? I know the Zune 120 right now does NOT come with them but I bought my Zune 80 some two years ago and it did. Granted it was a Zune Original.
I really like those headphones and hope they come with the HD....anybody know for sure? I plan on getting a customized HD as well... if that makes a difference.
Is the Zune HD supposed to come with the premium headphones? I know the Zune 120 right now does NOT come with them but I bought my Zune 80 some two years ago and it did. Granted it was a Zune Original.
I really like those headphones and hope they come with the HD....anybody know for sure? I plan on getting a customized HD as well... if that makes a difference.
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Brian Seitz, the zune PR guy, said that they were looking into a web based client to allow zunes on other O.S's. I guess that means it might work with Linux too. He mentioned it during his interview on Cnet's MP3 Insider podcast.
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I would like Mac support as well..
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If the zune wants to compete with the iPod, it needs to be in as many outlets as it could. I would highly consider a zune hd if it is available for mac.
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I saw it up close and its pretty nice. If I was a mac owner seeking a device like this, I would be pretty pissed right about now...
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Vmware fusion or bootcamp, there. Now it's on a Mac. Why do you Mac guys make it so hard?
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I believe thinking in terms of market share is myopic. I do not recommend the Zune (HD or not) even to Windows users, because I know that if they get a Mac (and that's not a small probability among consumers), they are going to ask me and blame it if it doesn't work. That Microsoft doesn't have the resources is laughable.
At the end it is a question of what Microsoft want to be: An operating systems company with side businesses trying to lock you into the OS (applications, Gaming, Media Players) or a consumers company that sells software and devices for as wide an area as possible. As it is, I wouldn't put money on the first business model.
At the end it is a question of what Microsoft want to be: An operating systems company with side businesses trying to lock you into the OS (applications, Gaming, Media Players) or a consumers company that sells software and devices for as wide an area as possible. As it is, I wouldn't put money on the first business model.
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I had the first Zune and was sad to see it die. I'd love a Zune HD with a OSX client.
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Well I own a mac and would absolutely love to own a Zune HD, although it is true that there are undoubtedly more PC users than Mac, most Mac users use mac for multimedia, so it would make sense to make the zune hd compatible with Mac OSX. If they don't... well I do have Windows 7 installed on my mac too so I guess I can do that.. just kind of a hassle..
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its an issue with compatibility. Getting something to work with a mac after it's working for a PC is harder than the other way around. Apple protects EVERY FILE with their own little code so this probably won't happen and i'm glad because i hate that apple makes it so hard to convert their files into other types (for instance exporting i-tunes songs into a format that can be read my a zune is IMPOSSIBLE)
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Mircrsoft realizes that iPods sell to Windows and Apple people but their product, which is far behind in sales, only sells to PC people, right? Aren't they trying to EXPAND sales? I thought that was the whole point....
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Yes, please! I realize the market share is not that big, but here I sit on the fence for what my next device will be. Zune HD (stellar music platform, Zune Pass, but only PC) or iPod Touch (Good App platform no subscription music and both PC/MAC).
Heck, Blackberry has released its desktop manager software for the Mac. I think the DRM is the big issue holding them back on Zune 4.x on the Mac.
Heck, Blackberry has released its desktop manager software for the Mac. I think the DRM is the big issue holding them back on Zune 4.x on the Mac.
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I was fool enough to think MS would make software for mac zune hd users but i guess not. Now i'm on craigslist trying to trade for an ipod touch. I will not -NOT- buy another one.
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Apple may only have 5 percent of the market but that is only one peace of the whole story. We should not forget about demographics and mindshare. While Aple's products only account for a small amount of the PC market, Apple's brand name is big in consumer's minds. Only consumers who live under rocks do not recognize Macintosh as a brand or fail to associate Apple with ipods. When consumers look at a Zune and see that it lacks Mac support it only throws egg in Microsoft's face. Looking at a Zune and Ipod side by side and comparing features multi-OS support is a check-box Apple has ticked off but Microsoft lacks, this ultimately can weigh heavily in a consumers mind.
Furthermore we should all analyze microsoft's and apple's market-share a little bit closer. While only 5%, what is the average age of consumers buying Macs? According to a recent survey 15% of college students currently own a mac and 40% plan to make a Mac their next purchase. I would argue that the teen/college age consumer is where Apple and Microsofts make most of their sales. That is where to the true battle lays, and in that field Apple has more then a 5% market share both in physical products sold as well as in mind.
Survey refrenced earlier.
www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/03/26/morgan_stan...
MS easily has the money and resources to develop for OSX if they wanted and they are foolish and stubborn if they proceed to ignore Mac users.
Furthermore we should all analyze microsoft's and apple's market-share a little bit closer. While only 5%, what is the average age of consumers buying Macs? According to a recent survey 15% of college students currently own a mac and 40% plan to make a Mac their next purchase. I would argue that the teen/college age consumer is where Apple and Microsofts make most of their sales. That is where to the true battle lays, and in that field Apple has more then a 5% market share both in physical products sold as well as in mind.
Survey refrenced earlier.
www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/03/26/morgan_stan...
MS easily has the money and resources to develop for OSX if they wanted and they are foolish and stubborn if they proceed to ignore Mac users.
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Just looking at how many times this topic has been raised here in gdgt you can see Microsoft is loosing a huge opportunity.
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I don't think we even need to have Microsoft port the Zune software to Mac. What they should do is either remove the MTPZ authentication from file transfers to and from the Zune or write a proprietary daemon of sorts that would decrypt the authentication on-the-fly. Many music programs already support MTP devices, the only barrier they have for Zune support is the authentication on the Zune's file transfer protocol that no one's put any energy into cracking.
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I would love to have ZuneHD for Mac as I believe this will set a fire under Apple to start innovating with iTunes.
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im thinking they might release zune for mac with the release of Windows Mobile 7 since the phones will sync with the zune software for media...or them being microsoft...they wont ha
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Should i need a drm removal software to convert iTunes music on Zune player? or any other ways?
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Just for the record, MAC is not capitalized.
It's Mac.
It's Mac.
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yeah, I would like the zune software for mac to sync my zune hd, but I don't think it will happen anytime soon...
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I would LOVE to use Zune on my i7 Macbook Pro!
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