Poll: Music lockers or streaming services? Which do you prefer?
Each has a very different vision of how you should think about your music collection, with the lockers essentially acting like an online backup of that hard drive full of MP3s you have on your computer, while the streaming services dispense with the whole notion of owning files altogether and just offer you access to anything in their collection, no files to manage or syncing to deal with.
Each has its advantages and disadvantages, depending on what you're comfortable paying, how big your music collection is, which devices you use to listen to music, but so far I haven't been totally happy either music lockers or streaming services. I love the convenience of streaming -- I have a Rhapsody subscription that I use primarily with the Sonos system in my apartment (if you haven't used Sonos with a streaming service like Rhapsody, Rdio, MOG, or Spotify you should -- it's awesome), but because I listen to so much music that isn't available in their catalog I tend to just use my phone or an MP3 player when I'm listening to music outside of the house.
What I want is someone to figure out how to combine the two. I want the convenience and breadth of a streaming service, but I want the ability to augment their selection and upload to the cloud all the more obscure stuff I like (about a third of my collection, I'd guess) which doesn't appear in anyone's catalog and access all of it via the same app.
There is definitely a gap here that I'd love to see closed. Streaming services a great if they have everything you want, but for things they don't have -- and none of them have the Beatles, for example -- you still need to own a digital copy. Music lockers obviously give you access to everything you own, but syncing and managing a collection is a hassle, and streaming services are simply more convenient.
I'm sure a combination of licensing requirements and major label intransigence would make something like what I'm describing unlikely to happen to anytime soon, but there isn't any technological obstacle to it being built. All it would entail is a streaming service provider like Rhapsody or Spotify or whoever doing the same thing they do now, but just adding the ability to upload some music to their servers and stream it alongside music they already offer. That storage would cost extra, but for someone like me it'd be worth it. The question is, are there that many people like me? I suspect that the reality is that there probably aren't that many people who want to and are willing to pay for it, but it seems like a question worth asking.
So which do you prefer?
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I have a feeling Apple will be eying that idea soon after the launch of iCloud. Small upgrades is what they do best. Start off with something broad and then add to it.
Seriously though, Both need to be married.
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1) Size of their existing collection
People don't want to pay a second time for things that they already own. So if a user has a large existing collection of music they are going to be drawn towards a free/cheap storage solution for their collection. The inverse is also true: if a user has a small or non-existant existing collection they will be drawn towards a streaming solution since it will allow them to access a large amount of music with very little upfront cost.
2) Level of interest in finding new music
Some users are not particularly interested in expanding the collection of artists that they listen to, but others want something new all the time. The more inclined a user is to find new music the more they will be attracted to a subscription service that allows large new music consumption with a low, flat cost structure.
I think they are a significant number of power users that have both a large collection and an appetite for new music. These users want a hybrid and unfortunately no one is catering to that segment at this point.
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As it stands, though, I'm happy with the locker solution. It's more important to have universal access to music you like and own as opposed to streaming music that you may or may not like. For the rest, for now, I'll stick with Grooveshark.
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Streaming services are really great too but my issue with them is that their catalogs tend to be very limited. Last.FM was great because it had a very diverse database compared to Slacker or RDIO but as a service is was really subpar. Spotify probably takes the cake there but who knows when that will hit the US.
The other large issue with the both of these options is the current data caps being implemented. I know for me right now with my current set up I'm easily hitting 2GB of data a month which is fine since I'm on Verizon right now but that can change this summer.
For now I'll continue with my current hybrid scenario of using Subsonic & Slacker or Last.FM. Subsonic provides me with a way of having more control over my entire library and control the stream quality for the music.
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The process of culling my music library and uploading has been a bit of work, and it would be nice to not have to take that step, but it's far far less work than the care and time investment I've put into collecting up 26,000 tracks. Plus I really don't care that it has taken a couple weeks to get my catalog uploaded to the cloud. I'm not really in so much of a hurry that two weeks makes much difference. Hopefully the bulk uploading is a one-time process like ripping was. And updates with new music should be pretty painless and automatic. Hopefully Google will offer reasonably priced storage upgrades when they announce the pricing and terms of the non-Beta product.
It's just incredibly liberating to be able to access my music library anywhere without syncing between the multitude of devices in my life. It's also a breath of fresh air not having to deal at all with the beast that is iTunes. I'm getting very close to the point were iTunes can exist on life support only to service my wife's iPhone.
Google Music is currently a non-starter on any Apple iDevice. Hopefully they will fix that so it is at least compatible with the Mobile Safari browser.
I'm pretty happy with the new Android Music App and how it interacts with my Google Music cloud catalog. And the browser-based Google Music player works pretty well.
I've also spent a bit of time trying the Amazon Cloud Player. I uploaded about 2k tracks. It works well, but it would cost a lot annually to match the size of the Google offering and host a significant portion of my library. Also I've found streaming on my Android phone works better with the Google Music app especially when driving around town.
The Amazon Cloud Player has the advantage over Google Music that it works in Mobile Safari on iDevices.
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I go through music phases; I used to listen to a lot of classic rock, then I moved to jazz, then I picked up the White Stripes and garage band rock, and now I'm listening to a lot of hip-hop and dub-step. I still go back to the music I most enjoyed in my other phases.
Paying a fee to Rdio allows me to experience all of that music without investing a lot of money each time my interests start to shift.
I still have all the music that I bought back in the day, and a lot of it isn't available on Rdio. So I recognize the gap that you're referring to; it would be great if I could upload music I own to Rdio and have access to it anywhere. I'm sure they could eliminate redundancies by identifying music already available in their catalog, thus freeing up server space.
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The combination built in to the Music Hub on WP7 would be the perfect fit for me.
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Granted Zune is a compromise between dedicated streamers and a locker service but I can not see replacing Zune with the services that are out there now.
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Steaming, not so much. 1 GB data cap on mobile and that's only so high because my company is paying for it. Wasn't prepared to pay for more than half that myself.
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Lockers for upload or download, lame. Wether you have a big or small collection.
It is amazing how music lovers have to go back in time, when they had to record cassettes or CDs to listen to their music. You could listen only the music you owned or someone lended you to do that "playlist". Once you did that, you could use that almost anywhere. That was hard, but awesome.
Now you have to own the music (even if you pay for the music you don't, in effect you own it), upload it, select the what you want to listen, download it, and that only to a limited number of devices (that you also own). We haven't evolved that much, eh?.
Even the ones that are music lovers, being able to pay some amount, they can't. There is no service and nobody's been able to put a price on that.
But let's be rude, to listen to the "latest hits" (probably the majority out there), you don't need any service at all. A discounted streaming or download to own service is more than enough.
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Much cheaper to stick with tethered devices, ripping music from CDs.
We have very limited streaming (VOD) "catch-up TV" services from the free-to-air channels and from our pay-tv provider.
Netflix and the like aren't available here and will never take off while we have to pay so much for our landline and mobile broadband access.
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With streaming services, they tend to have a monthly fee associated which is something that I don't want to pay for. I'm missing out on social and discovery features, but I never found them to be useful. I don't share common musical tastes with most of my friends, so these features never worked well for me.
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It may be an old school way of thinking at this point but I enjoy full albums, and part of me still clings to the notion of owning those albums. Whether it be in the cloud, on local storage, or even a physical record, I enjoy knowing I own an album and have given (at least some) financial backing to a band whose music I really enjoy. I find streaming services off-putting because once I quit paying for that service I no longer have access to the music (at least with most of them). I like to know I have an album as I listen and re-listen to them on a regular basis. Therefore my vote goes to the music locker service over a streaming subscription.
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So I say screw 'em both, they're both a gimmick. Get your music from iTunes or wherever, hook up your device and just transfer, it's not that hard.
And I'm with beau, music is passé, I just listen to podcasts.
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Subsonic turns your desktop PC into a media streaming server. It's the ideal solution for users who want access to their entire music and video library no matter the size on any mobile device.
After a quick and easy install and initial configuration, users can access virtually limitless terabytes of their music, DVD images, and television series from your mobile phone.
The Subsonic Android/WM7 app (or iSub for the iPhone) is sleek and easy to use. It populates your file library in under 3 seconds and retains the folder structure of your albums and videos just as you've organized them on your PC. You don't have to worry about a music service not stocking your more obscure recordings, the software supports ogg, flac, and just about any other format you throw at it and it will transcode (and downsample for slower internet connections) to your mobile device in seconds.
Best of all there's no monthly fee. You can try the Subsonic app for free for 30 days, after which you can continue to access your music via your mobile browser (though I prefer using the app) or you can upgrade to the full version for a minimum one-time donation of 10 euros. Donating also adds video functionality to the application.
Highly recommended.
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But of course, I would prefer to have a single app/service that allows me to do both. Sometimes there's just an old album that you want to put on that something like Rdio doesn't have.
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Which leads to the other elephant: Why is Apple not giving the ability to stream one's own music files over their devices with iCloud?? They know it makes so much sense. They are seemingly doing the impossible: Putting walls up in the cloud! Google's onto something with their Music Beta. Allow access over the web AND devices. IT IS THE FUTURE. Apple is trying to slow down progress and I can't figure it out. I'm a huge Apple fan, but they unknowingly drive people to companies that do it differently, and sometimes better (Hello Android!).
Something as simple as Audiogalaxy allows me to stream MY 150 gbs of music files from my computer to my phone, and the quality of the sound is very, very good. And it's free.
The Netflix business model is perfect for this situation. Access on as many different devices as possible. Make it as easy as possible to enjoy one's media. Power To The People!
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They also have a cool option of downloading music to their mobile apps for offline listening.
I'm excited for matching services like iCloud will offer. It is a great concept that saves the consumer upload time and the provider server space.
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On an flight where I am offline I have all the music I need on Spotify - and i can change those 3333 songs as often as I like. I've never come close to listening to all of them before getting online and having the chance to change them.
SO combinations are obviously the way to go - the interesting question is how the different providers pitch their services and how easily explained they are. I have to say that I still don't feel that I really understand what iCloud will do (or not do).
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This allows someone to choose the best locker and streaming service based on features.
For example, I will likely use iTunes Match at $25 a year for my Locker/Backup and continue to use Slacker Radio Plus (3.99 a month for caching to devices and other features) for my streaming. When I want to hear specific songs or playlists I use iTunes on my iPhone and when when I want to discover new music and have a playlist made for me I use Slacker Plus. But Android phone users may prefer to use Google Music Locker and say Pandora if they have an Android phone with limited storage.
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I used to like Last.fm until they screwed up the sampling options. Slacker was nice but its interface was difficult, and Pandora is a bunch of control freaks: "music like ---whatever song you want on the playlist--- will be added to your playlist" --well, I don't want songs LIKE another song, I want the song I want!!
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Paraphrased from their website...
You can upload your songs to their cloud then based on your listening tastes, they will recommend streaming radio stations that match your music.
And there are rumors of a scan-and-match feature like iCloud's version coming "sometime" in the future.
I found an excellent article at PCMag explaining better than I can
www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385918,00.asp
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