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sawilson

The myth of the "Tablet Optimized" app

So I was all heartbroken because I got a new monitor for my Mac, and I had to buy all new software. I needed new versions of Photoshop and MS Office and Protools and Logic Pro. God, it set me back 5,000 dollars. But yanno, it's worth it because the Mac is better.

Would you put up with that? Why do you put up with it on your tablet?

What a lot of people don't understand about iOS is forcing apps to scale to certain resolutions is just lazy coding. That's why those of us that own Android tablets wonder what people even mean by "tablet optimized" apps. That's purely an Apple problem. On Android, apps scale just like they do on your Mac and your PC. The way they should. There's nothing particularly different about a tablet that means apps can't behave the same way. So please, rather than claim "Android has fewer tablet optimized apps!", realize there's no such thing on Android. They are all just "apps". And by that measure, Android has about 400,000 more tablet apps than the iPad currently. Do you think windows 8 tablets are going to be hamstrung by forced size resolution apps? You'd be wrong if you do. They are also going to do it right.

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TgD

I am not seeing the correlation between buying a new monitor and it forcing you to get new versions of software on it. However, I don't own any of the software you listed except MS Office. That should work on any monitor you hook up to your Mac

You are absolutely correct about android scaling. I currently have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 LTE and any app I download from Google Play has looked nice whether it was designed for a phone or a tablet

It is extremely tough to put an "optimized" label on anything nowadays. Especially in the case of Google Play, having one unified App with good coding is technically "optimized" for phones and tablets. I have developed for Android and it IS tricky to plan how things render on different displays (The galaxy note was a fun challenge with the high DPI)

So my app i would say was optimized for phones and tablets :) but then having that it loses the effect of the word "optimized". My app was generally optimized to work well.

Windows 8 will leverage the power of the desktop OS behind it, and have really good scaling I think.

FWIW i think Apple does have scaling for apps designed for iPhone.
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sawilson

I *almost* got a Tab 7.7 LTE for remote sysadmin work, but I just can't get used to doing complex things on a software keyboard. So friggin nice though. The 8.9 is awesome also. The point to the monitor reference was that's really all that's changing between the iphone and the iPad. The screen resolution.
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TgD

I believe you can use a bluetooth keyboard if you have one. I hope google announces something exciting in the way of nexus tablets next week at Google I/O

The Tab 8.9 is getting dated in my opinion
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sawilson

I think my dream 7" tablet would have a built in hardware keyboard like the asus slider had.
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frankspin

I think the idea of tablet optimized apps isn't just necessarily if they scale but rather if the experience is enhanced on tablet. The issue, from my experience, is that with Android a lot of apps are just the phone version scaled up to a higher resolution whereas on iOS apps have different experiences based on the device. Some iOS examples of this would be Tweetbot, Mint and Reedr. There are a lot more but those are ones I'm familiar with. Some Android apps do this (Plume and Tweetcaster come to mind) but overall the number is far less than iOS.
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sawilson

I think it's an excuse to double charge for things. As an owner of the New iPad, and an Android Tablet, it's blown way out of proportion and more marketing rhetoric than an actual problem. There's no "phone version" on Android. That's once again just an apple problem. There are just apps, just like on your PC or Mac. Where iOS users really get hosed is things like Foursquare where there's no "tablet version" for the iPad. So instead you have the lazy workaround where you have a X2 button and you get this horrible ugly blown up version due to the inferior nature of the iOS workaround. By comparison, the same app looks fantastic on android tablet or phone. I find it highly amusing that "fragmentation" is cited as a problem with Android, while the only fragmentation I see is having to fragment applications between tablet and phone on iOS.
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frankspin

I agree, the double charging thing is kind of annoying but not all developers do this and I'm not about to cry fowl over something that costs $5 or less (not implying you do, just a statement). However for each one I come across that does this there are 10 that don't.

In regards to foursquare I think their idea is the service is a mobile experience and intended for the phone. Is this a poor excuse? Maybe, but again it's not entirely ridiculous.
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sawilson

Agreed
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TgD

Also agreed. On the double charging and the foursquare justification

I am not an avid foursquare user but my brother is. I can't imagine him whipping out a tablet for a quick check in rather than his phone.
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sawilson

If I'm on call or supporting a software release, I have my tablet on me if I go anywhere. This is quite often. I'll reach for that before a phone because it's easier. And while the camera and software on the iPad was not as good as the stuff on my galaxy nexus, the camera and software on the asus tablet are. That and I really dig Camera Zoom FX on tablet. Camera Awesome isn't bad though. It's just not an iPad app, so looks like crap on the iPad.
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bb4u

Do you really have a new iPad? The reason I ask is that for retina enabled iphone apps it displays as 2X by default (actually double of 960 by 640) on the new iPad. Maybe you are referring to the previous annoying behavior with previous iPads that displayed the iphone apps on iPad at their non retina resolution so 2X just doubled that and looked horrible.

Also, there are plenty of apps that are optimized for both iPad and iPhone that you only have to buy one time (unless they are free of course). I would guess that there are more of those apps available than those which work "well" on Android tablets. You may have a differing opinion of course but many other people have admitted that many Android phone apps don't really work that well on tablets. Particularly when it comes to images or graphics in games, it is difficult to properly handle all resolutions and screen sizes.
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sawilson

Yup, I really have the new iPad. And I realize it's actually displaying at 2x, and the 2x button is actually a 4x button now, but it's still labeled as 2x, probably to avoid confusion. Do you actually own one? When an app is for "iPhone" you get the lazy postage stamp sized middle of the screen version, then you can "2x" it with the button in the bottom right. It's because of the bad resolution lock in design of iOS. Ever wonder why every single screen has had to have been some multiple of the original iPhone display? Why you can't get a new resolution unless they can exactly double the old one? Bad design my friend. Thankfully clever marketing is cheaper than good design work.
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bb4u

You must be running non retina iphone apps on your new iPad then because it always displays double size for me by default not postage stamp size. It is literally 2X by default (pixel doubled in each axis from native 960 by 640) in my experience for the majority of iphone only apps.
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