I'm working on a column on the future of Nokia and would love to get some thoughts from the crowd here. There's three issues i'm thinking about. Comments? Thoughts? Future?
First, I'm confused by Nokia's platform strategy
Second, Nokia's services strategy is muddled
Third, Their most recent hardware designs are baffling
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The future of Nokia
Google has suggested that Android OS and Chrome OS will become one down the road. A key here is the way a mobile operating system will be expected to handle memory usage in the future. The Nokia N900 and Maemo gives a taste of that, since it's got a virtual memory to for instance handle large temporary Web files with ease. In other words, Nokia is for the time being ahead of Google that way. Of course, that might be something Google will not tell you, but it’s still the case nevertheless. In other words, if you see people bashing Maemo, they're kind of bashing an inevitable future in mobility. Maemo is also open-source. Nokia contributes to the Maemo development, like Google contributes to the Android development. If Samsung, which tend to support everything out there, wants to offer Maemo devices, they are free to do so. I guess they will when Maemo 6 arrives.
I agree with a lot of the sentiment expressed so far. It feels like Nokia is doing lots of experimenting and science projects but doesn't have a solid product to take them into the future. I believe its a company culture issue at the top that filters down and affects things like software, usability, UI, etc. If I were to guess on how the company is structured on a power level, I'd say that engineers and researchers are the "ruling class" where they need to have designers and product visionaries driving the ship.
Obviously company culture is near impossible to change so Peter's suggestion of pulling an 'Xbox' is probably the best strategy. However, judging by the mediocre products they've been pushing out lately I don't know if senior management is able to spot someone like a J Allard from Microsoft to lead that team. Having the right people on their 'Xbox'-offsite-style team are super important to make sure it didn't become another experiment or R&D sink hole.
With no real product leaders that have a strong vision to fight for their cause, MBA's and engineers take over and it becomes a death spiral of pumping the stock price and quarterly revenues. I think that's how Nokia got into this position. While they can make a TON of money off of selling generic phones to huge markets now, without designers & people with vivid product vision in this industry your future is bleak.
Obviously company culture is near impossible to change so Peter's suggestion of pulling an 'Xbox' is probably the best strategy. However, judging by the mediocre products they've been pushing out lately I don't know if senior management is able to spot someone like a J Allard from Microsoft to lead that team. Having the right people on their 'Xbox'-offsite-style team are super important to make sure it didn't become another experiment or R&D sink hole.
With no real product leaders that have a strong vision to fight for their cause, MBA's and engineers take over and it becomes a death spiral of pumping the stock price and quarterly revenues. I think that's how Nokia got into this position. While they can make a TON of money off of selling generic phones to huge markets now, without designers & people with vivid product vision in this industry your future is bleak.
To look into the future of Nokia, I might suggest you guys to look into the past. I have been with Nokia since its 5100 Phone, upgraded to a 3310 -> 3315 -> 3650 -> 6600, with some support coming from 1100 during the 6600 phase. What I used to love about them Nokias was the fact that they were rock solid, high QC, high craftsmanship (build quality), etc.
But the last gems from Nokia were the early crop of S60 phones, they clearly represented a world of difference between half baked proprietary OSes used by other companies. They have been stuck in that phase for a long time !! Instead of Innovating as a whole, they choose to go with incremental updates, no version of the S60 is clearly distinct from the previous version, and lets not even talk about Maemo here. The Mass market has shunned Maemo, and will do the same with Maemo 5 !
Nokia in the present has a strategy that is reflected in it product line -- N Series phones, E Series, Music Xpress, S40 Feature & Entry level phones.
Nokia launched N Series to great hype, and the initial models from N70 right until N73 were wildly popular (i.e., in India) , but by then Samsung & other players came in with all guns blazing ! And as every body was familiar with Nokia's UI, they wanted change, and some even opted for LG's KIRFy phones ( the horror !!) and after a while the real trouble started -- THE iPhone launched !
Nokia sought to reverse their market loss and decided to rejuvenate their product lines, they detailed S60's move to the touch arena, 6 months after the iPhone's announcement !! ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_q8oAPAKE) The Tube as it was notoriously codenamed. It even got itself into "The Dark Knight". Even that couldn't save it from its eventual fate.
N97 was promised to be Nokia's true entry into iPhone's newly acquired market. Even it had failed, EPIC-ly. My personal experience ( of a friend) has been nothing sort of a nightmare, had 3 replacements, 8 service ships, the current one is what the first one should have been like !
N97 mini has supposedly fixed those issues, and is supposedly been touted as the best VFM phone in the Mid High end market, but is powered by a weak ancient ARM 11 based 4xx MHz processor !!
ITS FUTURE PLAN:
Services:
Nokia's Ovi Maps implementation would improve for the better or worse, as it faces serious competition from Google's Navigation !
Nokia's Ovi Store, will have a (major - minor ?) structuring to even stand up to the App Store. N-Gage has been integrated into the Ovi store. Comes with Music may strip its DRM, a la iTunes.
Nokia's QC is currently non-existent, design flaws, Code irregularity and whatnot plague the N97. All these kinks have to be straightened out !
Also, FYI Nokia is working on a new flagship device to be released/announced? around 2011 (a year before the impending doom :P ) I have a few moles of my own :D
N900 is a reference device on which Nokia may choose to build future mobiles, its is AFAIK the highest specced Nokia mobile. Symbian may be well heading for a total overhaul as its presently being threatened by the iPhone OS, Palm OS and notwithstanding that, the upcoming "Project Pink" from MS. Nokia has to look straight and focus on all these factors, and reinforce its current strengths and if it decides to go all (drasticly) innovative on us. It shall do it by all means.
P.S: After the 6600, I went with Moto's Razr -> SE W830i | iPhone 2G . . . In the market for a phone now ! :(
But the last gems from Nokia were the early crop of S60 phones, they clearly represented a world of difference between half baked proprietary OSes used by other companies. They have been stuck in that phase for a long time !! Instead of Innovating as a whole, they choose to go with incremental updates, no version of the S60 is clearly distinct from the previous version, and lets not even talk about Maemo here. The Mass market has shunned Maemo, and will do the same with Maemo 5 !
Nokia in the present has a strategy that is reflected in it product line -- N Series phones, E Series, Music Xpress, S40 Feature & Entry level phones.
Nokia launched N Series to great hype, and the initial models from N70 right until N73 were wildly popular (i.e., in India) , but by then Samsung & other players came in with all guns blazing ! And as every body was familiar with Nokia's UI, they wanted change, and some even opted for LG's KIRFy phones ( the horror !!) and after a while the real trouble started -- THE iPhone launched !
Nokia sought to reverse their market loss and decided to rejuvenate their product lines, they detailed S60's move to the touch arena, 6 months after the iPhone's announcement !! ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_q8oAPAKE) The Tube as it was notoriously codenamed. It even got itself into "The Dark Knight". Even that couldn't save it from its eventual fate.
N97 was promised to be Nokia's true entry into iPhone's newly acquired market. Even it had failed, EPIC-ly. My personal experience ( of a friend) has been nothing sort of a nightmare, had 3 replacements, 8 service ships, the current one is what the first one should have been like !
N97 mini has supposedly fixed those issues, and is supposedly been touted as the best VFM phone in the Mid High end market, but is powered by a weak ancient ARM 11 based 4xx MHz processor !!
ITS FUTURE PLAN:
Services:
Nokia's Ovi Maps implementation would improve for the better or worse, as it faces serious competition from Google's Navigation !
Nokia's Ovi Store, will have a (major - minor ?) structuring to even stand up to the App Store. N-Gage has been integrated into the Ovi store. Comes with Music may strip its DRM, a la iTunes.
Nokia's QC is currently non-existent, design flaws, Code irregularity and whatnot plague the N97. All these kinks have to be straightened out !
Also, FYI Nokia is working on a new flagship device to be released/announced? around 2011 (a year before the impending doom :P ) I have a few moles of my own :D
N900 is a reference device on which Nokia may choose to build future mobiles, its is AFAIK the highest specced Nokia mobile. Symbian may be well heading for a total overhaul as its presently being threatened by the iPhone OS, Palm OS and notwithstanding that, the upcoming "Project Pink" from MS. Nokia has to look straight and focus on all these factors, and reinforce its current strengths and if it decides to go all (drasticly) innovative on us. It shall do it by all means.
P.S: After the 6600, I went with Moto's Razr -> SE W830i | iPhone 2G . . . In the market for a phone now ! :(
If I start calling FUD on all your points it will end up into a two page long reply! So here's just one:
" The Tube as it was notoriously codenamed. It even got itself into "The Dark Knight". Even that couldn't save it from its eventual fate"
Are you referring to the 5800xm? And by eventual fate do you mean it becoming a raging success which sold close to 15M units in less than a year and cannibalized markets for their touch screen portfolio, leading to delays!?
Yup that was a disaster. Just like Samsung's 8% Market share in India! (what kinda "guns blazing" strategy was that!?).
" The Tube as it was notoriously codenamed. It even got itself into "The Dark Knight". Even that couldn't save it from its eventual fate"
Are you referring to the 5800xm? And by eventual fate do you mean it becoming a raging success which sold close to 15M units in less than a year and cannibalized markets for their touch screen portfolio, leading to delays!?
Yup that was a disaster. Just like Samsung's 8% Market share in India! (what kinda "guns blazing" strategy was that!?).
Sales are just one equation of success, customer satisfaction is valued much more, I did conduct a small survey about touch screen mobile phones, the ones with 5800xm were not as pleased as the ones with HTC G1 or other HTC Android phones, or iPhone 2G or other phones in the same category.
Also, Samsung currently has 8% market share, but I suggest you to take a look at the last 4 months sales by Samsung. I can literally spot 4 out of ten people in a group sporting an El Cheapo no wifi Samsung mobile, reason: Just cause its touch & is cheap ! FYI Samsung's sales has been through the roof for the past few months, your argument invalidates itself if you look at the iPhone, it has like just 10% of worldwide market share, but is already a benchmark ! Its the growth that matters, not the market share !
I'm just saying that Nokia should value customer satisfaction more, work on a model that does a few things but at its best, not a "Jack of All trades, Master of none" approach !
P.S: Here is that YouTube video i'd posted, www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_q8oAPAKE Its about Symbian's move to finger friendly UI (late 2007)
Also, Samsung currently has 8% market share, but I suggest you to take a look at the last 4 months sales by Samsung. I can literally spot 4 out of ten people in a group sporting an El Cheapo no wifi Samsung mobile, reason: Just cause its touch & is cheap ! FYI Samsung's sales has been through the roof for the past few months, your argument invalidates itself if you look at the iPhone, it has like just 10% of worldwide market share, but is already a benchmark ! Its the growth that matters, not the market share !
I'm just saying that Nokia should value customer satisfaction more, work on a model that does a few things but at its best, not a "Jack of All trades, Master of none" approach !
P.S: Here is that YouTube video i'd posted, www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_q8oAPAKE Its about Symbian's move to finger friendly UI (late 2007)
Idk what kind of survey you undertook nor do I have access to the market research regarding the customer satisfaction, however looking at the numbers from just 3 Asian & UK (Vodafone,Singtel and Orange) carriers shows that 5800 has been in the top 5 even a year + after launch and google shows no reports of a recall or major consumer complaint. I've met dozens of people over the past year across the world who have been using the device (some swtiching from the iphone 2g & magic) and have largely been happy. This is not to say that their opinions is universal or forms some form of scientific survey but saying that the users are not happy with the device is going a bit far.
The 8% number for Samsung I quoted was from Q3 09 so it should have been accurate till September.
Samsung does not sell a cheap touch screen smartphone in the subcontinent. What you are reffering to maybe the Jet/Galaxy which is a dumbphone and has no direct competition from Nokia and the 2 cheap "xpress" (music focused , touchscreen phones) have just recently been released in the market and their numbers wont feature till Q4 09/ Q1 10.
The iphone being a great,innovative and path-breaking device is not in question. The point is that the device is not as popular worldwide as people think. The numbers over the past 3 quaters show stagnation or very little growth in most of the markets where Apple launched its device.
The smartphone market share has had explosive growth over the past two years and Apple have done well with a great product. But the high percentage gains is nothing but a hog-wash. If a product is not available in the market and you sell just one of it, thats 100% growth. It does not mean that 100% of the people are buying it!
+ If you look at the numbers from the analysis and reports, Nokia has ceded the largest share to RIM/Blackberry and not the iphone.
Customer satisfaction is paramount and one would think that a company which takes up 2+ billion in research would know this, but whats "satisfaction" to one customer might not be important to another.
The 8% number for Samsung I quoted was from Q3 09 so it should have been accurate till September.
Samsung does not sell a cheap touch screen smartphone in the subcontinent. What you are reffering to maybe the Jet/Galaxy which is a dumbphone and has no direct competition from Nokia and the 2 cheap "xpress" (music focused , touchscreen phones) have just recently been released in the market and their numbers wont feature till Q4 09/ Q1 10.
The iphone being a great,innovative and path-breaking device is not in question. The point is that the device is not as popular worldwide as people think. The numbers over the past 3 quaters show stagnation or very little growth in most of the markets where Apple launched its device.
The smartphone market share has had explosive growth over the past two years and Apple have done well with a great product. But the high percentage gains is nothing but a hog-wash. If a product is not available in the market and you sell just one of it, thats 100% growth. It does not mean that 100% of the people are buying it!
+ If you look at the numbers from the analysis and reports, Nokia has ceded the largest share to RIM/Blackberry and not the iphone.
Customer satisfaction is paramount and one would think that a company which takes up 2+ billion in research would know this, but whats "satisfaction" to one customer might not be important to another.
Nokia does sell smartphones. I don't know where you got the idea that it only sells dumb phones.
Your question of "right now, why change?" is totally out of place in any industry related to gadgets, and this is particularly true of cell phones. There seems to be a trend of all phones gaining smartphone-like qualities, perhaps all evolving into smartphones a few years down the line. There is no way a company will continue to sit idly by and let technology grow so rapidly without them. This is not the time for Nokia (or any other company, for that matter) to rest on its laurels.
Your question of "right now, why change?" is totally out of place in any industry related to gadgets, and this is particularly true of cell phones. There seems to be a trend of all phones gaining smartphone-like qualities, perhaps all evolving into smartphones a few years down the line. There is no way a company will continue to sit idly by and let technology grow so rapidly without them. This is not the time for Nokia (or any other company, for that matter) to rest on its laurels.
I agree with you, seriously, but that's exactly whay Nokia is doing. They're making tons of cash and while they do make smartphones - frankly they suck.
I think what I mean is is that a company so entrenched in selling cell phones in the 2001 model may find it difficult to move away from that. Somebody mentioned above company culture and how it's hard to change. I think that's a huge problem, and I think the complacency of the company is what's damaging them most.
In 5 years, you might see Nokia seriously falling off if they don't improve, but being devils advokate; they make a shit-ton everyday.
I think what I mean is is that a company so entrenched in selling cell phones in the 2001 model may find it difficult to move away from that. Somebody mentioned above company culture and how it's hard to change. I think that's a huge problem, and I think the complacency of the company is what's damaging them most.
In 5 years, you might see Nokia seriously falling off if they don't improve, but being devils advokate; they make a shit-ton everyday.
In the Smartphone market, everyone has to leverage something. Palm with it organizer, RIM with the first incredible real time email to the phone, Apple with its iPod and its prescient touch user interface. Nokia makes phones that work and last forever, but they have no creativity when it comes to exciting the user with a more expensive smart phone. They need to leverage their quality manufacturing and distribution (outside the US). They don't get these new markets. The NetBook they introduced has some nice features, but is grossly overpriced. Either they have to concentrate on what they do right, lower end phones that last forever or they need to totally revamp their strategy and stick with it by acquiring Palm for Jon Rubinstein and the Apple people he has brought over to Palm. Then they need to let Jon run the smartphone and eventually smartbook businesses and get out of the way! Palm might also help them enter the US market more effectively.
Don't call it a comeback...
www.engadget.com/2009/06/15/ll-cool-js-hilariously...
Nokia is completely out of touch with its consumer base.
It seems like the company is half-heartedly trying to build mindshare to compensate for slipping marketshare and it isn't working.
www.engadget.com/2009/06/15/ll-cool-js-hilariously...
Nokia is completely out of touch with its consumer base.
It seems like the company is half-heartedly trying to build mindshare to compensate for slipping marketshare and it isn't working.
Nokia is facing two issues: In the US the inability to get US Mobile Operators to subsidize their better phones. They have to work on this and it seems it is hard, but they may be making some headway. AT&T is carrying the Booklet 3G, but you still can't get an N-Series in any carrier. Some people say that the problem is the lack of CDMA Nokia phones, and it seems Nokia is trying to fix that. I think the iPhone shows the problem is something else. Don't dismiss the possibility of an impasse between US Carriers and Nokia, as it is strange that none of them carry their phones.
Related to this is the software/OS problem. Symbian doesn't seem to cut it with the new type of phones breeding from the iPhone trail. Nokia response in an unproven Maemo, which is already behind Android despite having been available for years. Is Nokia falling into a "Not invented here" trap, will that ve their downfall?
Related to this is the software/OS problem. Symbian doesn't seem to cut it with the new type of phones breeding from the iPhone trail. Nokia response in an unproven Maemo, which is already behind Android despite having been available for years. Is Nokia falling into a "Not invented here" trap, will that ve their downfall?
No time to go through all the posts so far in any great depth so I'll start writing my own here...
In order to write about Nokia's future, I need to write a bit about nokia's (recent) past.
I wrote this post:
mix.epicfu.com/profiles/blogs/my-phonedevice-wish-...
Back in may. It's A wish list for a device that Will tear me away from my 2+y/o HTC kaiser. (I will not purchase an Apple portable media product, including the Iphone for reasons that i mentioned elsewhere ), and at the time I was really looking forward to the N97 because of all it's specs, features and combination of internal memory AND expandable card storage . however as reviews were coming out, there were many issues with the unfriendly (resistive) touchscreen user interface. and the underpowered processor that runs the thing. Both combining in a poor user experience.
Needless to say I'm still waiting. :P
What really narks me is that, in my opinion, Nokia was in the best position to come up with a decent software platform from the moment the Mark 1 Iphone was released. Nokia owns Symbian and Symbian is used as a goto (if not THE goto) Mobile OS for manufacturers like SonyEricsson, and up until recently,Samsung amongst others. Nokia's major rivals (in my opinion) outside apple are HTC and before taking on anything involving Android, they relied on purchasing a windows mobile license for each device and equipping that as part of its software. never mind its GUI "patches" of touchflo and "sense"
one key factor for this situation is that up until the point apple released their Mk1 Iphone, Every single manufacturer was playing kiss-arse to the carriers, as detailed by the last 10-odd minutes of this TED talk from David Pogue.
www.ted.com/talks/view/id/495
Post Mk1 Iphone onwards Nokia and symbian should have IMMEDIATELY got their heads together to Make a mobile OS and interface that would Rival the Iphone and It's OS. But they didn't.
Also Why have they not done any major work with capacitive screens for their flagship devices? Why, in the case of the N97 and the N900, did they deem resistive feasible?
Devices as a whole outside the Iphone, from manufacturers Like HTC for example, seem to be adding features and improved technical specifications and resolutions at the Expense of a good user interface/experience. the only exception of this has been palm, with Web OS Being their "rabbit out of the hat", the problem in their case is all the kids have left their magic show.
Which segways into what I think of Nokia's future. There have been many rumblings on teh interwebs About Nokia Looking to acquire Palm. From my own perspective I would LOVE to see and use WEBOS on a Device like the N97 and the N900 (equipped with a powerful enough processor of course). Whilst we're at it I'll say I'm up for a device - from any manufacturer - that has the form factor and qwerty keyboard of the touch pro 2, a capacitive screen, the internal memory and expandability of the N97/N900 (as well as every other feature I mentioned from that personal blog post). And in an ideal world there would be an equal number of Developers making apps for WEBOS on a decent and released SDK as there would be for the Iphone. However if nokia persists with using Resistive screens they could do worse than invest in stantum technology as shown here on engadget.
www.engadget.com/2009/11/27/stantum-shows-off-resi...
Handset wise, in the short term, they need to at least incorporate capacitive screens with multitouch. as far as the software goes they need to focus And release one piece of kick-arse software, and a similar standard of SDK for it for 3rd party devs. The N95 was the last time nokia was at the peak of their game and the peak out of everybody. they may never reach that peak again. and they might end up going the way of palm.
Also what are they doing with this booklet 3G? Good industrial lightweight design or not, people with money AND sense will realise that that is just a netbook. Fair enough it might have always on internet, but even being a european I can see this failing on so many levels. First of all from what I've seen of advertising and sponsors, the 3g internet comes courtesy of AT&T, And even I can work out that it's coverage is not gonna win people over if their Iphone coverage is anything to go by. Secondly, the internals scream NETBOOK and similar spec-ed machines (without always on 3G) are available for several hundred bucks(+euros+pounds) less. These specs haven't really changed beyond the last year or so. And lastly, I don't see these becoming popular in Europe if they brand the "always on" internet as a selling point to people on the move. Namely one hour's flying or 3 or 4 hours driving from anywhere on the continent and you're in another country, and hence you'll be the victim of Stonking great roaming charges.
In order to write about Nokia's future, I need to write a bit about nokia's (recent) past.
I wrote this post:
mix.epicfu.com/profiles/blogs/my-phonedevice-wish-...
Back in may. It's A wish list for a device that Will tear me away from my 2+y/o HTC kaiser. (I will not purchase an Apple portable media product, including the Iphone for reasons that i mentioned elsewhere ), and at the time I was really looking forward to the N97 because of all it's specs, features and combination of internal memory AND expandable card storage . however as reviews were coming out, there were many issues with the unfriendly (resistive) touchscreen user interface. and the underpowered processor that runs the thing. Both combining in a poor user experience.
Needless to say I'm still waiting. :P
What really narks me is that, in my opinion, Nokia was in the best position to come up with a decent software platform from the moment the Mark 1 Iphone was released. Nokia owns Symbian and Symbian is used as a goto (if not THE goto) Mobile OS for manufacturers like SonyEricsson, and up until recently,Samsung amongst others. Nokia's major rivals (in my opinion) outside apple are HTC and before taking on anything involving Android, they relied on purchasing a windows mobile license for each device and equipping that as part of its software. never mind its GUI "patches" of touchflo and "sense"
one key factor for this situation is that up until the point apple released their Mk1 Iphone, Every single manufacturer was playing kiss-arse to the carriers, as detailed by the last 10-odd minutes of this TED talk from David Pogue.
www.ted.com/talks/view/id/495
Post Mk1 Iphone onwards Nokia and symbian should have IMMEDIATELY got their heads together to Make a mobile OS and interface that would Rival the Iphone and It's OS. But they didn't.
Also Why have they not done any major work with capacitive screens for their flagship devices? Why, in the case of the N97 and the N900, did they deem resistive feasible?
Devices as a whole outside the Iphone, from manufacturers Like HTC for example, seem to be adding features and improved technical specifications and resolutions at the Expense of a good user interface/experience. the only exception of this has been palm, with Web OS Being their "rabbit out of the hat", the problem in their case is all the kids have left their magic show.
Which segways into what I think of Nokia's future. There have been many rumblings on teh interwebs About Nokia Looking to acquire Palm. From my own perspective I would LOVE to see and use WEBOS on a Device like the N97 and the N900 (equipped with a powerful enough processor of course). Whilst we're at it I'll say I'm up for a device - from any manufacturer - that has the form factor and qwerty keyboard of the touch pro 2, a capacitive screen, the internal memory and expandability of the N97/N900 (as well as every other feature I mentioned from that personal blog post). And in an ideal world there would be an equal number of Developers making apps for WEBOS on a decent and released SDK as there would be for the Iphone. However if nokia persists with using Resistive screens they could do worse than invest in stantum technology as shown here on engadget.
www.engadget.com/2009/11/27/stantum-shows-off-resi...
Handset wise, in the short term, they need to at least incorporate capacitive screens with multitouch. as far as the software goes they need to focus And release one piece of kick-arse software, and a similar standard of SDK for it for 3rd party devs. The N95 was the last time nokia was at the peak of their game and the peak out of everybody. they may never reach that peak again. and they might end up going the way of palm.
Also what are they doing with this booklet 3G? Good industrial lightweight design or not, people with money AND sense will realise that that is just a netbook. Fair enough it might have always on internet, but even being a european I can see this failing on so many levels. First of all from what I've seen of advertising and sponsors, the 3g internet comes courtesy of AT&T, And even I can work out that it's coverage is not gonna win people over if their Iphone coverage is anything to go by. Secondly, the internals scream NETBOOK and similar spec-ed machines (without always on 3G) are available for several hundred bucks(+euros+pounds) less. These specs haven't really changed beyond the last year or so. And lastly, I don't see these becoming popular in Europe if they brand the "always on" internet as a selling point to people on the move. Namely one hour's flying or 3 or 4 hours driving from anywhere on the continent and you're in another country, and hence you'll be the victim of Stonking great roaming charges.
a) The nokia booklet is crippled and expensive only in the US ($60/M + 7 Basic!). In the rest of the world you get 7 Premium and at much cheaper rates + faster speeds depending on the provider. Surely that's not a Nokia fault now is it?
b) A lot of people here have mentioned the N95 as being "the last great nokia device". Check out this little device called E71. Editors Choice, Design Awards and 20M+ sold over the past 1.5 years.
c) There is no perfect device and you will always have to make some form of compromise. The N900 is a beast and although as stated earlier, its not ready for the mass market, if you can live with a little bugs and hang on for the ride, its a pretty powerful device with a vibrant community support that will continually be updated. + It has things similar to WebOS (such as the notifications).
d) Majority of the world cannot use Cap screens, (Cold weather, hand writing etc) and Nokia aims devices at the majority of the world. Check out the X6 if you want a Cap screened nokia. Also, please try the screen on a n900/n97 mini for yourself before you buy the FUD. Yes Cap screens are more responsive in comparison but Nokia's resistive screens are best in the business and perfectly optimized for touch. Do a google search for an n900 review and see how many non-us bloggers had problems with the screen.
e) Next time at least have an overview of the topic :)
b) A lot of people here have mentioned the N95 as being "the last great nokia device". Check out this little device called E71. Editors Choice, Design Awards and 20M+ sold over the past 1.5 years.
c) There is no perfect device and you will always have to make some form of compromise. The N900 is a beast and although as stated earlier, its not ready for the mass market, if you can live with a little bugs and hang on for the ride, its a pretty powerful device with a vibrant community support that will continually be updated. + It has things similar to WebOS (such as the notifications).
d) Majority of the world cannot use Cap screens, (Cold weather, hand writing etc) and Nokia aims devices at the majority of the world. Check out the X6 if you want a Cap screened nokia. Also, please try the screen on a n900/n97 mini for yourself before you buy the FUD. Yes Cap screens are more responsive in comparison but Nokia's resistive screens are best in the business and perfectly optimized for touch. Do a google search for an n900 review and see how many non-us bloggers had problems with the screen.
e) Next time at least have an overview of the topic :)
@Munk
The Nokia E71x on AT&T and the Nokia E75 (unlocked) are pretty solid phones in the U.S. market. Eseries powered by Symbian is Nokia's new cash cow and should fit well with corporate America. If Verizon starts offering Eseries devices as well, the market would most definitely take notice big time.
The Nokia E71x on AT&T and the Nokia E75 (unlocked) are pretty solid phones in the U.S. market. Eseries powered by Symbian is Nokia's new cash cow and should fit well with corporate America. If Verizon starts offering Eseries devices as well, the market would most definitely take notice big time.
Anyone who has used the e71x will tell you its a crippled abomination compared to the original.
Yes the E series have been successes and eaten up the N series market share the world over (E71,66,75,52,55 and if early user/editorial reviews are to be believed the e72).
Selling to US corps would require Nokia to get into bed with AT&T and previous history shows that those end devices leave a lot of people upset. Verizon being CDMA would be tough (although I dont see why the could not do a "World phone) + if you look @ the Twist on Verizon then you know the sw policies and decisions by those guys.
Yes the E series have been successes and eaten up the N series market share the world over (E71,66,75,52,55 and if early user/editorial reviews are to be believed the e72).
Selling to US corps would require Nokia to get into bed with AT&T and previous history shows that those end devices leave a lot of people upset. Verizon being CDMA would be tough (although I dont see why the could not do a "World phone) + if you look @ the Twist on Verizon then you know the sw policies and decisions by those guys.
I did have an overview of the topic, which is why I typed what I typed. :P
"The nokia booklet is crippled and expensive only in the US ($60/M + 7 Basic!). In the rest of the world you get 7 Premium and at much cheaper rates + faster speeds depending on the provider. Surely that's not a Nokia fault now is it?"
I have not done much research into the pricing of the Booklet 3g Beyond a quick google (shopping) search, Bearing in mind that I'm someone who prefers to buy my tech outright all at once rather than be tied to a hire purchase style contract for 1.5 to 2 years eventually paying god knows how many times over what the device is worth, that goes for phones as well as netbook/Data package dongle thingies.
www.google.co.uk/products?hl=en&source=hp&...
These prices vary from £500 - £600 sterling,
In terms of of buying outright however, stateside folk seem to have the better deal, with pricing at $600 ( "a la carte" according to gizmodo gizmodo.com/5401607/nokia-booklet-3g-review ) which at the time of writing = £362
Doing a search for other Win 7 Netbooks (again in blighty):
www.google.co.uk/products?hl=en&q=Windows+7+Ne...
shows a varying trend of £200-£350
But a Netbook, is a netbook, is a netbook. Hardware specs have hardly changed in this area within the last year or so (1.6GHz Atom CPU + 1GB RAM varying low RPM hard drives, and I own an EEEPC 1000H on which I upgraded the ram to 2GB ) Nokia have in no way re-invented the wheel here, they've just made it out of shiny lightweight chrome.
"d) Majority of the world cannot use Cap screens, (Cold weather, hand writing etc) and Nokia aims devices at the majority of the world. Check out the X6 if you want a Cap screened nokia. Also, please try the screen on a n900/n97 mini for yourself before you buy the FUD. Yes Cap screens are more responsive in comparison but Nokia's resistive screens are best in the business and perfectly optimized for touch. Do a google search for an n900 review and see how many non-us bloggers had problems with the screen."
Speaking as someone who has owned a resistive 320 x 240 res winmo device for the last 2+ years that was suposedly optimised for "touch friendliness" at the time it came out ( ie still requiring stylus a large amount of the time). Having experimented with Android devices and Ipod touches belonging to other people I can tell you that I'm well within my right to desire a cap screen on a device. In addition to...
"c) There is no perfect device and you will always have to make some form of compromise. The N900 is a beast and although as stated earlier, its not ready for the mass market, if you can live with a little bugs and hang on for the ride, its a pretty powerful device with a vibrant community support that will continually be updated. + It has things similar to WebOS (such as the notifications)."
There may not be a perfect device, but across varying devices and companies, the technology exists to make one (according to my wish lists at least, which includes a qwerty keyboard - which is why I don't fancy the X6) and aside from the resistive screen and software in the N97 it was damn near close to it. And the market is there for it Iphones and android devices are being used all over Europe there are many people who are staving off Iphones because "if only it had a qwerty". Take, for example, If the motorola droid/milestone. If that had what the N900/N97 had in terms of memory + expansion, I'd jump to that in a heartbeat.
"The nokia booklet is crippled and expensive only in the US ($60/M + 7 Basic!). In the rest of the world you get 7 Premium and at much cheaper rates + faster speeds depending on the provider. Surely that's not a Nokia fault now is it?"
I have not done much research into the pricing of the Booklet 3g Beyond a quick google (shopping) search, Bearing in mind that I'm someone who prefers to buy my tech outright all at once rather than be tied to a hire purchase style contract for 1.5 to 2 years eventually paying god knows how many times over what the device is worth, that goes for phones as well as netbook/Data package dongle thingies.
www.google.co.uk/products?hl=en&source=hp&...
These prices vary from £500 - £600 sterling,
In terms of of buying outright however, stateside folk seem to have the better deal, with pricing at $600 ( "a la carte" according to gizmodo gizmodo.com/5401607/nokia-booklet-3g-review ) which at the time of writing = £362
Doing a search for other Win 7 Netbooks (again in blighty):
www.google.co.uk/products?hl=en&q=Windows+7+Ne...
shows a varying trend of £200-£350
But a Netbook, is a netbook, is a netbook. Hardware specs have hardly changed in this area within the last year or so (1.6GHz Atom CPU + 1GB RAM varying low RPM hard drives, and I own an EEEPC 1000H on which I upgraded the ram to 2GB ) Nokia have in no way re-invented the wheel here, they've just made it out of shiny lightweight chrome.
"d) Majority of the world cannot use Cap screens, (Cold weather, hand writing etc) and Nokia aims devices at the majority of the world. Check out the X6 if you want a Cap screened nokia. Also, please try the screen on a n900/n97 mini for yourself before you buy the FUD. Yes Cap screens are more responsive in comparison but Nokia's resistive screens are best in the business and perfectly optimized for touch. Do a google search for an n900 review and see how many non-us bloggers had problems with the screen."
Speaking as someone who has owned a resistive 320 x 240 res winmo device for the last 2+ years that was suposedly optimised for "touch friendliness" at the time it came out ( ie still requiring stylus a large amount of the time). Having experimented with Android devices and Ipod touches belonging to other people I can tell you that I'm well within my right to desire a cap screen on a device. In addition to...
"c) There is no perfect device and you will always have to make some form of compromise. The N900 is a beast and although as stated earlier, its not ready for the mass market, if you can live with a little bugs and hang on for the ride, its a pretty powerful device with a vibrant community support that will continually be updated. + It has things similar to WebOS (such as the notifications)."
There may not be a perfect device, but across varying devices and companies, the technology exists to make one (according to my wish lists at least, which includes a qwerty keyboard - which is why I don't fancy the X6) and aside from the resistive screen and software in the N97 it was damn near close to it. And the market is there for it Iphones and android devices are being used all over Europe there are many people who are staving off Iphones because "if only it had a qwerty". Take, for example, If the motorola droid/milestone. If that had what the N900/N97 had in terms of memory + expansion, I'd jump to that in a heartbeat.
Nokia make great phones, I would posit in fact that they make the worlds best phones in terms of range of models and cell radio quality and to some extent usability, but heres the issue, just like we are witnessing the subsuming of the mp3 category into other devices, so we are starting to see the very start of the beginning of the end of the phone as standalone device.
I fully accept that we may only be at the very start of what may be a very long transition, forecasting technological transitions being far beyond my expertise, but you can't deny thats what we witnessing.
Nokia make lots and lots of phones, however even their "smartphones" I would argue are used and perceived as high end phones, so basically they are stuck in this position and will continue to do so, until they get out of this phone mentality, as an earlier reply posts think that a "mobile computing" device is just a phone with x number of features, and next years device is the same phone with x+1 features.
A new type of device has emerged, that has existed pre IPhone, but just as the IPod really took the mp3 player mainstream the IPhone is now leading the charge in making the mobile computing device mainstream.
If you think about the personal computer has also done this basically over the years the hardware has got more powerful and affordable and basically through software and usability taken over the tasks of previous device categories, or created whole new use cases.
The mobile computing device due to its size will take over from several devices ; MP3 players, GPS, phone to name a few and start to encroach on a few other categories such as netbooks.
Now Nokias problem is that while they continue with their current strategy their devices will only be perceived as and used as phones ( backed up by stats from AdMob and web traffic etc) and sure in some markets where there is no market for high end devices or in markets where they continue to dominate the low end they have a very strong position, however when consumers are ready to buy their first mobile computing device they will perceive that as an IPhone or an Android device not Nokia.
Nokia should create a single device , perfect a form factor and create an interface around Meamo, perfect that UI and iterate quickly but gradually evolve the device in the same way as the IPhone. By continuing to constantly bring out new devices( sometimes more than once a year) with bug laden software that only matures by the time they bring out their next model, they continually destabilise their presence and reputation in this emergent market.
They should possibly create a new single brand for this device and make a clear distinction between their phones and this new device.
I would argue that the IPhone is so successful because out of all the devices out there at the moment its the least like an actual mobile phone.
If Nokia continue like they are they are so big that they will be round for a long time, but in the long term they will find them selves cornered into what ever remains of the "mobile phone " market , which will diminish and be ultimately made a niche by the "mobile computer".
If you look history is littered with former giants that basically have not evolved with the market, who would have thought 10 years ago that AOL would be where it is. How about Palm now fighting for its life for not evolving their devices into phones quickly enough.
As I said before this may take a decade or longer , but thats the landscape for Nokia , and they should understand that they need to get their piece of this new category before its too late.
I fully accept that we may only be at the very start of what may be a very long transition, forecasting technological transitions being far beyond my expertise, but you can't deny thats what we witnessing.
Nokia make lots and lots of phones, however even their "smartphones" I would argue are used and perceived as high end phones, so basically they are stuck in this position and will continue to do so, until they get out of this phone mentality, as an earlier reply posts think that a "mobile computing" device is just a phone with x number of features, and next years device is the same phone with x+1 features.
A new type of device has emerged, that has existed pre IPhone, but just as the IPod really took the mp3 player mainstream the IPhone is now leading the charge in making the mobile computing device mainstream.
If you think about the personal computer has also done this basically over the years the hardware has got more powerful and affordable and basically through software and usability taken over the tasks of previous device categories, or created whole new use cases.
The mobile computing device due to its size will take over from several devices ; MP3 players, GPS, phone to name a few and start to encroach on a few other categories such as netbooks.
Now Nokias problem is that while they continue with their current strategy their devices will only be perceived as and used as phones ( backed up by stats from AdMob and web traffic etc) and sure in some markets where there is no market for high end devices or in markets where they continue to dominate the low end they have a very strong position, however when consumers are ready to buy their first mobile computing device they will perceive that as an IPhone or an Android device not Nokia.
Nokia should create a single device , perfect a form factor and create an interface around Meamo, perfect that UI and iterate quickly but gradually evolve the device in the same way as the IPhone. By continuing to constantly bring out new devices( sometimes more than once a year) with bug laden software that only matures by the time they bring out their next model, they continually destabilise their presence and reputation in this emergent market.
They should possibly create a new single brand for this device and make a clear distinction between their phones and this new device.
I would argue that the IPhone is so successful because out of all the devices out there at the moment its the least like an actual mobile phone.
If Nokia continue like they are they are so big that they will be round for a long time, but in the long term they will find them selves cornered into what ever remains of the "mobile phone " market , which will diminish and be ultimately made a niche by the "mobile computer".
If you look history is littered with former giants that basically have not evolved with the market, who would have thought 10 years ago that AOL would be where it is. How about Palm now fighting for its life for not evolving their devices into phones quickly enough.
As I said before this may take a decade or longer , but thats the landscape for Nokia , and they should understand that they need to get their piece of this new category before its too late.
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