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So what does everyone think?
So what does everyone think? Is Palm splintering their audience with the price drop of the pre to meet the price point of the Pixi? Or is this the webOS device that will bring Palm back to the mainstream? Post your thoughts here
My only problem with this phone is the fact that supposedly they cut wifi out of it, which at least in the tech community at least in my opinion is an instant kill for this phone. It really doesn't look like a bad phone, especially if its cheap but the lack of wifi is almost a big negative if it is true.
i like the form factor, i just hope it feels more substantial than the pre
i love it. gimme gimme gimme. coming from the Pearl to the Pre, I would have loved to have had this thing instead (except for the missing parts). Maybe the next iteration will be QWERTY landscape + giant touch screen + good gmail app. That would be the knock out punch for me.
Why would you care about Wi-Fi if its positioned as a Treo Centro replacement? Ive yet to see the full back, but it looks a hell of a lot more professional than the Centro line of Treos. If this is priced at $99 and lower, it will be an epic WIN. Also, I know this device is exclusive to Sprint for 2009, AT&T is getting it 2010 as well as Verizon.
Agreed. None of my Centro-toting friends care about WiFi, they just like the concept of a cheap phone that can surf the web, get their email, and manage their calendars. I can see this being a huge hit if they can bring it in at or under the magic $99 price point.
That said, I wish Palm would stop dealing with Sprint. I want a WebOS device sometime in the near future!
That said, I wish Palm would stop dealing with Sprint. I want a WebOS device sometime in the near future!
i agree that most users wont care about wi-fi, but for power users like me this could be a show stoppfer
It only seems to fix two problems from the Pre.
1. Reliability problems with the slider.
2. Instead of being at price parity with the 16GB iPhone 3GS it's aiming at the $99 iPhone 3G.
Problem is you lose wifi and you get a smaller screen.
On the other hand if you're coming from Blackberry you might love this.
1. Reliability problems with the slider.
2. Instead of being at price parity with the 16GB iPhone 3GS it's aiming at the $99 iPhone 3G.
Problem is you lose wifi and you get a smaller screen.
On the other hand if you're coming from Blackberry you might love this.
I forgot to mention the smaller, screen. Although its not to terrible its still very small. The form factor is awesome but you lose a lot in that process. Not that it won't be a great entry level smartphone, but i don't think it will be on par with the original or next full version.
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Limited background tasks/cards supported due to limited memory it seems. Worse battery. No WiFi, no deal. 2MP camera is ancient in 2009. WebOS is just, well, not as cool as Android these days. Zero app support due to dragging development involvement. Sorry Palm, you had your 15 seconds.
Its HTML and CSS. The apps can be multiple resolutions on the Pre in dashboard view. There will (probably) never be resolution based compatibility problems with WebOS.
This is why IMHO WebOS is the Mobile operating system to beat right now. (As far a core capabilities. Apps count for something.)
Ugh.
This is why IMHO WebOS is the Mobile operating system to beat right now. (As far a core capabilities. Apps count for something.)
Ugh.
I agree, the only thing is that there are some resolution/sizing issues on the Pre. Some apps get cut off on the bottom when the notifications pop-up rather than resizing. I have been working on apps in the Mojo SDK and they specify that you need to account for the different sizes of the screen due to the notifications et al. Regardless, I don't foresee any major issues with cross-device app compatibility.
Amen! I don't see why people put Sprint down. Reliable network, superior 3G with expanding 4G (up to 100 mbps!). I think that Palm is making the right move to team up with Sprint.
It's a very nice looking device, great entry level WebOS device. I don't know why some people were expecting same-level performance as the Pre (although the lack of Wi-Fi is a bummer), obviously they need to water-down some specs to get the awesome form factor and slimness. I was initially worried about the screen size being too small for usability, but Palm did a great job with the size. For being essentially a Centro replacement, Palm is doing well slowly-but-surely bringing WebOS across multiple platform devices for different lifestyles.
This phone is not meant for geeks. It's meant to take the same place in the market that the Palm Centro recently had. There are a lot of people out there who don't have a lot of money, and aren't huge tech people. However, a device like this can give them most of the smart phone experience at a reasonable cost.
Surely, this is not something you would pick if you could afford a full smartphone, or cared about getting a full smart phone. However, if you were just going to get a "normal" phone or whatever, this is way way better than that. I think we definitely need to see a lot more phones aiming at this category. Sort of like a netbook for smart phones. Take away some horsepower, but give people a smart phone OS on a much cheaper device.
Sprint announcing the $70 unlimited plan will help a lot, too. With the iPhone at $99, it isn't the price of the phone that keeps people away. It's the price of the data plans and such.
Surely, this is not something you would pick if you could afford a full smartphone, or cared about getting a full smart phone. However, if you were just going to get a "normal" phone or whatever, this is way way better than that. I think we definitely need to see a lot more phones aiming at this category. Sort of like a netbook for smart phones. Take away some horsepower, but give people a smart phone OS on a much cheaper device.
Sprint announcing the $70 unlimited plan will help a lot, too. With the iPhone at $99, it isn't the price of the phone that keeps people away. It's the price of the data plans and such.
I am a bit hesitant about the Pixi. On the one hand I am thrilled that we are getting more Web OS options (best phone OS in my opinion), and while the design is appealing and sleek, I am a bit concerned about the size. Seems like the screen might be too small for a good OS experience, and the keyboard as well may still be too cramped. Will have to wait and try it out once it is released.
I am personally in anticipation of the second generation Pre. A Pre that is maybe 20% larger, better keyboard, bigger display, little sturdier build - that would be the one for me.
yea, and what's up with no WiFi? COME ON!
I am personally in anticipation of the second generation Pre. A Pre that is maybe 20% larger, better keyboard, bigger display, little sturdier build - that would be the one for me.
yea, and what's up with no WiFi? COME ON!
I'm not sure what this hubbub about no WiFi is. That's what data plans are for. From what I see the only reason and scenario to even use WiFi is at home. There aren't many free hotspots out for people to leech onto and EV-DO rev A data is pretty fast as is for pulling up most webpages and handling data intense apps. I have never turned on WiFi on any of the phones I have to use it instead of the cell radio that it has.
Well for me, wifi is much better at home since it eats less battery, and gets a way faster connection. I have gotten 5mbps speed off my wifi router. 3G i really don't use since it eats battery and generally i can surivive on edge.
True, WiFi does make it better. But my thoughts are if your at home, you might as well using a computer anyhow rather than the tiny screen on your phone, unless your on the couch surfing or whatnot. I guess my phone is WiFi shouldn't really be a deal breaker, since people are probably using it less than they think.
Agreed, and you have to keep in mind that not all Wifi speeds are alike. My house is out in the middle of nowhere, and while we do have a wireless internet connection, it's on a pokier Frontier DSL service (geographically, no other service is offered in my area). Wifi hotspots will vary, but it is nice to save a little on the battery juice.
Keep in mind that with the smaller screen and smaller processor, we might see incremental improvements in the battery life department, as long as the user doesn't push the multi-tasking too far :)
Keep in mind that with the smaller screen and smaller processor, we might see incremental improvements in the battery life department, as long as the user doesn't push the multi-tasking too far :)
do you think this would be a nice first smartphone for someone who's never had one & isn't the best w/ gadgets (re: my wife!)? we looked at the hero & she was so so on it. i think the actual keyboard on the pixi plus the price might win her over to ifnally get a smartphone. plus, the plan is insanely cheap (got quoted $56 at a sprint store-but even $70 through amazon is a good deal)
