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peter

I'm happy to report that I finally pulled the plug and cancelled my cable TV service.

Recently I did something I'd been promising to do for a while: I cancelled my Time Warner cable TV service. I'd been thinking about it for a long time, finally came to the conclusion that while I do really like TV, I just wasn't watching enough of it anymore to justify the $100 I was spending for cable each month (I subscribed to the basic service plus HD channels and also paid a monthly fee to rent an HD-DVR).

Like a lot of other people who have cut the cord, I've turned to the internet -- Hulu and Netflix make that easier than ever -- but since I still wanted to be able to watch live TV now and again I picked up an HDHomeRun from Silicon Dust. It's basically an HDTV tuner for computers that takes over-the-air ATSC and over-coax Clear QAM broadcasts and encodes them into MPEG-2 so you can watch and record them on a computer. QAM is the standard for digital cable and most people don't know that you can often get basic unencrypted digital channels for free over cable even if you haven't signed up for cable. UPDATE: I put this out there a little confusingly. The cable companies are mandated to offer unencrypted rebroadcasts of local channels (unless they come to another arrangement with a local broadcaster), but they aren't obligated to offer them to you. My point was that if you have cable coming into your home there is a good chance you can access those channels.

For my setup I've been using the HDHomeRun with a Mac mini, and so far have been largely satisfied with the results. I live in an apartment where I can't mount an external ATSC antenna, so I decided to use the HDHomeRun to tune into those Clear QAM channels. I get HD broadcasts of the local ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, and CW affiliates, TBS, all of the C-SPAN channels, as well as a bunch of local access channels that I don't really care about. Even though most of the shows I want to watch are available online, with the HDHomeRun I can watch stuff like the Super Bowl and the Academy Awards live in HD, often with better picture quality than you'll get watching something on your cable company's DVR.

For recording and watching shows I use Elgato's EyeTV DVR software. It's decent, but not great, though there is a plug-in that integrates it with Frontrow, which does make things a bit nicer (though reportedly Frontrow might be disappearing with the release OS X Lion, so perhaps I should get so attached). EyeTV does have an app for streaming shows to an iPhone or iPad and it's pretty easy to convert files to h.264 if I want to archive a show or transfer it to another device for later watching.

I also tested the HDHomeRun with a Zino HD that Dell sent me to review. There were a few issues getting Windows Media Center to map channels properly (it's a known issue) with the HDHomeRun, but in general Windows Media Center offers a much better DVR experience and the Zino is well-suited to the living room (plus there's a version with a Blu-ray drive, which isn't an option with the Mac mini).

My new setup is a little more complicated than before -- when my mom visited she wasn't exactly thrilled when I tried to explain how everything worked -- but it's way cheaper and I no longer have to deal with that horrible Scientific Atlanta box. And since I watch about three or four hours of TV a week it's not a big deal to me that it's slightly more difficult to watch a show than before.

Would love to hear others' experiences with cutting the cord, I'm thinking of putting together a future newsletter about this stuff.

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mike

I didn't bother getting cable when I moved to the East Bay a few months ago. With a Mac Mini, Xbox, and PS3 hooked up to the tv we've got everything covered. If I want to watch a live sporting event, I can go to the pub around the corner and have a more social experience.

Aside from saving $100 a month, it's also created better viewing habits. No more channel surfing means more time for everything else!
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qyiet

That's $100 per month you can spend on a bar tab.
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Dignan17

Cutting the chord is a great idea, but as you've shown, there are no solutions as simple and easy as just paying for TV.

What proponents of chord cutting always seem to leave out is that it doesn't work if you watch a lot of TV (I'm not saying you did, you mentioned it right from the start). I can't stand Hulu and its spotty coverage of which programs it carries. I don't want to have to worry about which shows are where, and how long they'll be kept there. Plus they never seem to have a show the same day as it's broadcast.

Many users in the past have said that iTunes is a great alternative to cutting the chord. Again, that's only if you don't watch as much TV as I do, because soon you'll end up paying far MORE for season subscriptions than you would with TV, and you don't get any incidental channels that might carry one thing you want to see.

I watch a few dozen hours of TV a week, including a daily show on ESPN. I have no choice but to keep the chord.
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peter

Totally, I just wanted to tell my personal story about this. This isn't something I would have done a few years ago when there were more shows I wanted to watch -- paying for cable TV was simply a lot more convenient. But as I noticed myself watching less and less it seemed like I'd reached a point where the amount I was paying outweighed the convenience.
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Dignan17

I really wish I could cut the chord. I wish I could sit all the studio heads down in a room and say "Look, I'll pay Netflix $XX/month if you give them access to everything you have...in HD...always...with surround sound..." :)

I don't know how much XX would be, but I'm willing to work with them if it means that much convenience.

In the meantime, while I haven't cut the chord, I do feel like I've cut the...I don't know...DVD/Theaters? I used to buy DVDs constantly, like 20-30 a year. Now I buy maybe 1 bluray a year, and rarely go to the theater where it costs $25 for my wife and I just for the tickets. With Netflix and my beloved vudu, I can now stay at home where the experience is much better. I'm happy to pay $6 to rent an HDX movie that looks just as good as bluray to me. Until I can cut the chord, I'm very happy with this convenience.

Oh, and one more thing: if cutting the chord means I have to give up my beloved Tivo, I simply can't do it :)
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caryyy

Ditching AT&T U-verse for Internet TV.
InternetTV | caryyy

Before:
AT&T U-verse (TV/DVR/FiOS Internet 6 Mbps) $145.00

After:
AT&T FiOS Internet (12 Mbps) $45.00
(Internet Speed Avg. 11.8 Mbps)
(Internet Speed Avg. 7.85 Mbps while streaming multimedia)
Netflix $9.99
Hulu $7.99
YouTube $0.00
--------------------------------------------------------
Total $62.98

Savings $82.00/mo.

Equipment:
- P4 3.2GHz PC
- 4GB DDR2 RAM
- XFX HD-467X-ZDF2 Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2
- 160GB Primary SATA HD
- Harmon Kardon HK395 Speakers

Update: I made the antenna based on this article and connected it in the living room.
blog.makezine.com­/archive­/2009­/01­/maker­_workshop­_d...
Now I have all local channels.
CBS/WPEC
Create
Fox
ION
IONLife
JCTV
LATV
NBS
TBN
TCE
V-Me
WFGC/CTN
WFLX
WTCN
WTVJ
WWHB
WXEL
qubo

Update: I moved the antenna outside on the roof and doubled my channels:
WPTV-HD
WPTV-TV
WPEC-HD
WPEC-SD LUXE
WPEC-SD
WTCE-D1
WTCE-D2
WTCE-D3
WTCE-D4
WTCE-D5
WFLX-DT
Tube
WTVX-HD
WWHB
WTCN
LATV
WXEL
Create
V-ME
Florida
WHFT-DT
WHFT-D2
WHFT-D3
WHFT-D4
WHFT-D5
Air (snowy)
Air
WSCV
WFGC-TV
CTNi
CTN
CTNe
WBEC-TV
ION
qubo
IONLife
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cass

I never watched too much TV, so when I moved to my new apartment, I just got internet service. I just bought a Dell Zino HD because of the smaller form factor and installed Boxee on it for all my video podcasts I watch. All of the shows that I did watch on cable are all online for free of via Netflix. Hulu and the networks that offer full streaming shows cover a large amount of new shows that I watch and I can also view whenever I want.

I don't miss cable.
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brett

I haven't had cable (or a TV for that matter) since I moved out East in June. I just have huluPLUS and Netflix which tends to keep things pretty simple. I really miss my live sports, but for everything else, those services give me exactly what I'm looking for. When I really need to catch a game on Sunday, I can just find a friend and then when I eventually get a TV I'll pull in some channels over QAM for free.
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erwos

We used to do what you did back when we lived in an apartment and had DSL. (Well, no Netflix or Hulu back then, but lots of DVDs.) Gotta love the HDHomeRun... didn't Microsoft add clear QAM support in Windows 7?

The problem with cutting the cord for a lot of people is that the marginal cost of doing so tends to be pretty trivial if you're getting internet service already. I'm not sure how things work in your building, but I know that for our house, it's like $20 more a month to get a combo TV/Internet bundle instead of just getting Internet. I don't know if you've ever had the dubious experience of trying to use an ATSC antenna, but it's sometimes a real hassle... $20 a month to get Discovery HD (a glaring omission from Netflix and Hulu) and not constantly screw with the antenna seems worthwhile to me.
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peter

It's a $100 difference for me.
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NoCheese

Sorry, but you didn't "cut the cord". You may have cut your bill but by your own article you are still dependent upon the signal being delivered to your residence by the cable company. What happens when the cable company disconnects you at the exterior tap?
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peter

You are being needlessly pedantic. "Cutting the cord" is an expression that's used to refer to canceling one's paid TV service.

I'd be surprised if Time Warner decided to discontinue offering me service -- have you ever heard of them doing so? -- but if so I have several other options for internet.
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frankspin

Peter I believe as long as you have cable service via your modem, you'll continue to get the basic cable signal you are using now.
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jademason

At least in our market, this is no longer the case. Comcast has switched to a completely digital service, even for basic cable. That means you can no longer plug the coax into your television and tune the analog basic cable stations, you must use a set top box on each TV.
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frankspin

You do not need a full set top box for this, Comcast was providing up to the 3 free digital adapters to any of their subscribers.
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erwos

You can usually still get clear QAM, though, which is digital.
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NoCheese

Cablevision, at least where I live does do this. And even if you still have a cablemodem (which was me while I was using DirecTV they put an inline filter at the tap.

So really, at least here when you stop paying for TV services they make sure they aren't coming in on the line.
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webpoet73

My wife and I watch quite a bit of TV during the fall/spring TV season and then alot of baseball in the summer. I, of course, watch football and NASCAR in the fall. The DVR is full of movies we have recorded from HBO and Starz. I am big on HD and surround sound, which is not something that Netfilx or Hulu do well.

I can't cut the cord until the following happens:
1.) Netfilx streaming quality gets better. It is acceptable, but nowhere near the quality of my Dish.
2.) Discovery network channels stream HD. (Animal Planet, TLC, Discovery)
3.) HBO Go doesn't require a cable subscription.
4.) Hulu streaming quality gets better. Similar to my quibble with Netfilx.
5.) The Braves play on Fox Sports South and Sports South.
6.) We also love The Travel Channel, CNN, FoxNews, A&E, Bravo, HD Net, and many others...

I have never even entertained cutting the cord, but I do wish that channels were a-la-carte so that I can pick and choose what channels I get.
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trh

You said "I live in an apartment where I can't mount an external ATSC antenna". Is that because you don't have any outdoor space (balcony/patio) or is it because your complex doesn't allow an outdoor antenna? The FCC OTARD allows outside antennas to receive OTA local channels if you have an area that is your exclusive use.
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peter

I don't have any outdoor space and our building does not allow us to mount an antenna outside a window.
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twentw

Wait a minute. Where's your evidence that "you can legally get basic unencrypted digital channels for free over cable even if you haven't signed up for cable." Even though it's unencrypted doesn't mean it's free. I would be very surprised if this were true.
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peter

It's absolutely true, the FCC mandates that the cable companies provide access to local channels. You're welcome to go through the FCC rulings yourself to try to prove me wrong:

hraunfoss.fcc.gov­/edocs­_public­/attachmatch­/FCC­-07­-...

You're also welcome to report me to Time Warner Cable.
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aaronisaacs

So if I call Time Warner, they have to give me free local channels? Is it HD?
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qtrim

Once they are through laughing at you, they'll probably hang up.
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qtrim

Peter, I posted your assertion over at AVSForum and the consensus is you're either wrong or under a great misconception. The cable company is under no obligation to provide local channels to non-subscribers. You just got lucky.
Here's the thread:
www.avsforum.com­/avs­-vb­/showthread.php­?t­=1343631
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peter

Sorry, but they're not correct. I never said that they have the obligation to make them available to you, just that you can get them via the cable that's already coming into your home without subscribing to service. Many cable providers make it as difficult as possible to access those channels, but the FCC does mandate that they offer local channels over unencrypted clear QAM.
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aaronisaacs

So Peter, if that isn't working for me I can all them and make them do it?
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peter

No, not as far as I know.
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jparishii

for some live stuff..I use VEETLE.com....anyone can broadcast stuff on veetle and there are some nice broadcasters that stream Live TV shows over veetle.com

I also use HULU and Netflicks

JP
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jglinville

does anyone have a good recommendation for a site that ranks tuners? I have 4 tuners- 2 channelmaster set top boxes, one COBY set top box, and a 2007 Olevia tv. the channelmasters work great (abc, cbc, nbc, fox, cw, my), but the olevia only picks up 2 channels consistently, and the coby works good for the most part, but pixelates 2 of the channels every so often.

i'd like to invest in a computer tuner like hdhomerun, but want to make sure it is a "good tuner".

for the record, i live in birmingham, al, within 10 miles of 5 of the towers and 50 miles of the other. i have a big directional antenna on my roof.
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kreitz16

I just moved and cut the cord as well. I'm running a Roku and PS3 at the moment and trying to decide whether to spend $200 to re-purpose my PC into a media center, or just get a TiVo for the OTA stuff. Thoughts?
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peter

I think Windows Media Center is really good, I'd probably get that over a TiVo.
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kreitz16

Wow, great info. That probably makes more sense then.
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Samsara

I'd been a TiVo user for over ten years when my last one died. Having moved to WMC, I don't think I'd go back even if I won the lottery.
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Syrinx

How well does WMC record OTA? Is it good at scheduling recordings, conflict management, etc? Any apps out there for remote scheduling? I plan to cut the "cord" when my DirecTV contract expires in the Fall.
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jademason

The WMC UI for recording is quite good. It is aware that our HDHomeRun offers two tuners, and will warn when scheduling more recordings than can be tuned. It allows for the usual Record Episode, Record Series, Record Series (first run only). It uses the metadata from the carrier to determine if the episode is a first run or repeat. We get a couple of networks on multiple carriers, so we sometimes end up with multiple recordings of the same show. Picture quality is excellent, but be sure to have a sufficiently fast HDD to record to. I started by using an older, slower drive and found that the recording had a lot of artifacts. After switching to a faster drive the issue was resolved.
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Syrinx

Thanks for the reply. What is a "fast" HDD to you? Does 7200 RPM (SATA) cut it?
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jademason

Overall disk speed is important, but I think seek time was the real bottleneck. We would often record two shows while watching a previously recorded show from the same drive. With all of that content in HD, it was hammering the drive. We now use a 500GB 7200RPM SATA WD Caviar Green drive, which handles our usage.
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Syrinx

Thanks.
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dalhectar

How well does WMC record OTA? Very well. For a while I was without CableCard tuners for my HTPC, so I used a HD HomeRun to record OTA HD, and it worked rather well.

WMC handles Schedule Recording & Conflict management very well.

Remote Scheduling has to be done via third party software, but programs like Remote Potato allow remote scheduling and has added a ton of features within the year to improve function and UI. You can find more info on Remote Buddy on the Green Button. thegreenbutton.com­/forums­/p­/83946­/418747.aspx
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Syrinx

Thanks for this very informative reply!
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jademason

We evaluated a TiVo as well, but couldn't get past the monthly fee.
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jademason

Last year we cut the cord as well, but out of necessity. We moved to a rural location that didn't offer cable services. Still, this was something that I had wanted to do for some time, and was glad to have my hand forced. My current setup is as follows:

- Win7 running Windows Media Center
- PlayOn Lite
- HDHomeRun Dual Tuner
- PS3
- Wii
- Netflix

I'm not a big TV watcher, but my wife is. She was quite surprised to see how much of the TV she really wanted to watch was available OTA. Sure, she missed being able to scan for the background noise of guilty pleasures on traditional cable networks, but not so much that we've missed paying the $100+ per month to watch them. We have a very limited "broadband" internet connection through our rural wireless provider (~1.4M down, 5K up) but it is enough that we can stream one show from Netflix. This has been a boon for our kids, who definitely would be missing Nick, Sprout, and Disney.

We setup our recording through the Win7 HTPC, and those recorded shows are available on our other sets via the PS3 using Windows built-in DLNA support, and on the Wii using PlayOn's MyMedia, which is currently in beta.

Another big project during this switch was to make all of our DVD content available on-demand. I used a combination of DVD Shrink, Handbrake, and MetaX for this project. Just like our recorded TV, that content can also be called up using the HTPC, PS3, or Wii.

It isn't a perfect solution. Bad weather knocks out both our OTA TV reception as well as our internet connection. Even with good weather, online content and services have a long way to go before it is a true competitor to what the major cable operators can offer. Asking my wife and kids to switch between Clicker, Hulu, PlayOn, Netflix, Boxee and a variety of other apps in the hopes of maybe finding the content they want to watch is a non-starter. Keeping it simple is key, and that is something the cable operators have much better control over.
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uuill

I did this about 2.5 years ago and do not regret the move one bit. Sling and Western Digital have been (on the hardware-side of things) berry berry good to me.
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Samsara

Did the same last month when my TiVo died. Much happier with this change than I was expecting. Using Windows Media Center for recording OTA channels. Using my 360 as an extender and discovering just how much content is available on Netflix. I actually feel like I have too much to watch sometimes. May just wait for cable shows to come out on DVD, but Amazon is always on my TV if I get impatient.
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ropeburn

I'm excited to learn about the many different ways to have some HD entertainment
after cutting the cord... for me it's DirecTV. I cut back on my plan recently but still pay aprox 100/month. I think I would miss ESPN most. :( I do love my netflix streaming on the Ps3, it's super clear......
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ChrisXS

The only thing holding me back is getting Yankees games. MLB.TV only works for out of market games. I guess I can find a like minded out-of-market buddy that will let me use his network as a proxy for that purpose.
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kreitz16

This is actually not too difficult to get around. The MLB.TV subscription is roughly $120/year and, as of last season, they were not limiting the number of unique devices that were allowed to log in simultaneously. So, I got 4 buddies together and we split is 4 ways.

Here's the kicker: The blackout areas are assigned by credit card billing zip code. So, find somebody that lives in an area that is outside of the blackout zones and you'll be fine. The only games you'll miss are the nationally televised games.
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ChrisXS

That is great! I always thought they would be doing a check based on your current location. I look forward to finally cutting the cable tv cord once and for all.
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kreitz16

We thought this would be the case as well, however 2 of the guys in the Mariner's market were pleasantly surprised to find that because I used my CC (Ranger's market) they were able to get Mariner's games... I unfortunately couldn't get Rangers games.

Of course, they could change how this works in 2011(including the number of simultaneous devices) but as of 2010 that was the case. When I called MLB to ask about the devices, she said that there was no limit, however if they spotted obvious signs of abuse they would address on an account by account basis. I plan on calling again this season before I order.
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