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peter

I don't think I'm going to be adding the iPhone 4 to my Want list anytime soon, but I will say that the pixel density of that display is absolutely…

amazing. They've definitely raised the bar here, and I'll be disappointed if we don't see other manufacturers racing to catch up before the end of the year.

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greedobuck

In Australia I believe the carrier receiving the call sets the price, but it is charged to the customer via their own carrier (who sets the price to the customer). So Google would have to make agreements with the various phone providers for calls that terminate at a mobile phone number.

At least I think that's how it works (I worked at a telco for a while).
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jamiehubball

I have a 3GS now, was gonna buy the HTC Desire if this didn't blow me away.

The screen looks amazing, don't care about the front-facing camera.

Same old Apple I think, iOS4 remains as crippled as yesterday.

Hello Android, I've been waiting for you for such a long time...
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jera372

The iphone that I had broke, so I was thinking about getting this. The pixel density is indeed amazing..so, I take it that it's a no for you then.
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preist

I'm really thrilled. The screen, the video and the facetime calling.. awesome.
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chip

ill get one for video chat with wife, albeit mostly from home to office, so we can do that with the mac and mac, but alas, looks to be enticing.
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chip

one more, how long till google extends Video chat in HTML5 to the nexus one? isn't this easily attainable? from a device standpoint, i prefer the nexus as well, but the sharper res might be excellent as well.
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bcpk

As great as HTML5 is, I don't think it can grant a front-facing camera to the Nexus One.
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eawortman

The hard part about doing video chat on most phones is that they lack a front facing camera. So if your face is looking at the camera, you can't see the person you are talking to.
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nxtiak

That many pixels in a tiny 3.5" screen doesn't matter. It's like watching a 100" HDTV from 100ft away.
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kaplanfx

It probably doesn't matter for video, so your HDTV comparison may be apt, however it will be amazing for text rendering and viewing camera images. Imagine that the DPI will be like that of a standard laser print, it will be THAT sharp.
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audioeng

If the retina can only see 300dpi, why can I tell the difference in a 1200dpi print and a 300 dpi print?
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dave

"If the retina can only see 300dpi, why can I tell the difference in a 1200dpi print and a 300 dpi print?"

Because dots != pixels.
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fourblades

I honestly think the whole "retina" thing would make more sense with the iPad since we'll be reading on that device more than the iPhone...
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greedobuck

What resolution would that be on an iPad though? Something like 4K? That would require a LOT of power.

I'd like to see this new iPhone screen. My phone has a slightly lower resolution (Motorola Milestone) but in a slightly bigger screen, and my phone's screen looks really nice.
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kaplanfx

The iPad is 1024x768. If it followed the iPhone pattern the res would double putting it at 2048x1536, that would quad the pixel count but would be insanely high when you realize it's getting into the territory of Apples current 27 inch and 30 inch display resolutions on a MUCH smaller screen. It would be awesome though.
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happyschneider

nope, it has to do how far away from the pictures you are... that's all

and background lighted pixels tend to blurr
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bcpk

It was only at a certain distance.
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notgary

A phone is not a HDTV. They are completely different devices with completely different use cases. You're not going to organise a movie night with your friends and have everyone crowd round your phone, nor are you going to whip out your 100" HDTV on the subway during your commute. A high definition 3.5" screen screen is a still high definition screen, and books and documents will look amazing on it.
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Tregus2

Get on the apple train!
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slickwatson

best phone ever!
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docmurdock

well with the battery issues and all of the "i have to turn off all my widgets to get this thing to stay on" talk that's going around, all that integration is doing absolutely no good. If you happen to receive an iphone4 that you'll not be using, send it down here and I'll put it great use.
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peter

I certainly don't have those issues.
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fourblades

I've changed my widgets that needs to connect online to limit their refresh rate and that saved tons of battery life. Kind of make sense how Kin is only doing that interval connection.
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brett

I've never had those issues either. Kind of a huge assumption you're making considering you don't have an Android device.
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docmurdock

I never assume. I always investigate and I don't own an android device because I choose to actually be productive :)
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peter

You are so absolutely ignorant of what you're talking about, it's unbelievable.
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slickwatson

Android lacks polish, is fragmented, and has a lot less sexy tech. Not picking a type of tech to seem like an outlaw doesnt make it a good choice. Just because everyone loves Apple products like iPhone isnt a good reason to hate on them
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peter

That is a completely specious argument. I said exactly why I prefer Android, it has nothing to do with being an "outlaw". I don't see how one's choice of mobile OS could make one an "outlaw" anyway.

And I don't "hate on" Apple products. I own plenty of them -- check my Have list -- and I have very good, well-thought out reasons why I prefer not to use an iPhone. I certainly don't see any well-reasoned arguments coming from you.
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happyschneider

don't raise to the bait! Why does everyone always think they had to defend their decision. The phone you use is not defining you, despite what some marketeers tell you.

We should just appreciate each other for the nerds we are to come here and discuss gadgets in the first place, never mind which gadget we endet up with. But what am I talking, flaming will never stop and now it arrived at gdgt... time to move on?
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eawortman

I have to agree. Yes I am an iPhone user, but the things that Android, Windows Phone 7, WebOS, and even Blackberry bring to the table fascinates me. Maybe I'm a mobile fanboy...
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thisisrick

@happyschneider I wish I could "like" that comment twice...
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smoof111

I have never had problems with apps on android, it looks gorgeous, especially the new os coming out, Froyo.
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stacey

How can you say Android is fragmented if the same thing is going on with the original iPhone and possibly the iPhone 3G? Neither of those phones will get the full iOS4 experience. And I can guarantee you that not all intensive apps will even work with the previous two iPhones that I mentioned previously.
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notgary

Fragmentation isn't a result of what's currently in the hands of users, because old hardware has to be cut loose to make way for new software. It is the result of manufacturers producing products that all run different versions of the software. Just look at the number of different Android versions that are showing up on new tech. All iOS devices purchased will be running the same version of the OS.
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teapower

I agree that Android isn't as badly fragmented as most people say but your being a little harsh on the iPhone. In the last 6 months more than Android phones than there's been iPhones have come out.
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eawortman

I think people are more referring to phones that run one version of Android and not another. For example a phone that is 6 months old (Nexus One) running a newer version than a phone that came out 3 days ago (EVO 4G). There is also the instance where a phone like the Droid Eris launches with 1.6 while the Droid launches very close to the same time with 2.x. I realize that these things happen due to things like Sense UI.

I think the "fragmented" feeling comes from different phones having different versions, features, and update roadmaps when compared to all phone models get the update on xx day.
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Tregus2

Peter Peter apple hater! Get a ipone you deserve it!
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audioeng

Enjoy being productive with your Farmville app, fart apps, Guitar Hero app and Netflix app.... Way to get some work done!
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teapower

I can see Josh on the Engadget podcast start the show with the big news of the week, Farmville is finally come to the iPhone.
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docmurdock

Props to the gdgt folks that did the live blogging. Nice job. Once again, when you get your iphones that you'll not be using, send them to Scottsdale. We'll put them to great use here.
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