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Discuss our live coverage of Apple's fall 2010 event here!

Whether it's an iPod touch with FaceTime and a Retina Display, or a new, apps-enabled Apple TV, it's all going down here: live.gdgt.com­/2010­/09­/01­/live­-apple­-fall­-2010­-even...

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bobtimmons

So, Beatles on iTunes finally??
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dave

Hah, I've never understood the demand for this. Doesn't everyone already (potentially) own Beatles CDs? Why not just rip them directly into iTunes!
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Dpmt

I'm to young. I've had maybe two or three more CDs then cellphones. I figure by the time I'm 25 those numbers will be even.
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bobtimmons

guess not :{
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gtsorbo

Did they just cut video playback from the ipod nano?
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Cam

Looks like it. No camera, either.
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Jchap01

yea the camera was a bit of a disappoint. I really so no need for it in the last nano but with the newest version it almost looks like a micro camera. As what I said before it could have been a perfect travel device if it had a camera in it.
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gtsorbo

I guess that's what the touch is supposed to be now.
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Jchap01

Yep. The new iphone has a really nice camera so I'm not going to complain. With something as small as the nano i don't think the camera would have been all that great anyways.
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dave

Camera in the new iPod touch isn't the same 5MP camera as in the iPhone 4! Pretty bummed about that.
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waterworthr

Worldwide Times:
07:00AM - Hawaii
10:00AM - Pacific
11:00AM - Mountain
12:00PM - Central
01:00PM - Eastern
06:00PM - London
07:00PM - Paris
09:00PM - Moscow
02:00AM - Tokyo (September 2nd)
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typesett

Thanks for the coverage. I prefer gdgt over all the other websites for Apple live stuff. Now if only you would do better tech news overall...
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jamesey

I'm really glad Ryan was there covering this, since the stream wouldn't work for me at all for some reason. (And apparently, it cut out a bit just as they demo'd streaming anyway, funnily enough)

Disappointed with the lack of tactile buttons on the new Nano, but it looks sexy as hell. I've always been a tactile feedback kinda guy. Does anyone know if the adapters for the (now-deceased) buttonless Shuffle would work on the new Nano?

New Apple TV looks slick, but it's a big letdown that Hulu+ isn't going to happen on there. Or Amazon streaming, or Vudu, or CBS, or... well, you get the idea. iOS apps on there could've been incredibly compelling. Is there any chance you can stream Hulu+ from an iPhone to the new Apple TV using AirPlay?
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dalhectar

Hulu Plus, the killer app of the AppleTV

Renting TV shows for $.99 isn't worth it to me. Often, what I watch is simply disposable TV like Hell's Kitchen. I watch it because I have 0 marginal costs per show, just something to have on if I want to relax for a minute. I think many of the contests/reality shows are like that. Likewise for most Sit-Coms as well.

But if Hulu Plus is on board with AppleTV, where I can get most of the network shows I want to watch for a flat fee of $10 per month, and say I pay $1 per show for premium stuff like Boardwalk Empire, Dexter, etc... It would make a revamped AppleTV much more exciting.

The downside of Hulu Plus is the commercials, but the upside to Hulu Plus over AppleTV streaming is that you can rewatch an episode after an iTMS rental window of 24 hours expires. The way I see it, Hulu Plus sounds more economical to anyone that follows 3 or more TV series a season.
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dave

If there were a greater selection of content providers, I could see this really being worth it and almost compelling enough to ditch my cable provider.

Let's say I'm interested in a few weekly shows (come on HBO, put your stuff online!).

That's 99 cents x 5 shows a week x 4 weeks a month = $20 / month
Plus I like daily show - 99 cents x ~20 weekdays per month = / $19.80

So for less than $40 / month, I could potentially*** replace my cable connection!

*** I think this only makes economic sense only depending on how much TV you watch. A few shows? Great! But anything more than that, and your basic cable costs could be less than your monthly rental costs. Also, I'd miss watching sports live, which I love (though things like ESPN3 available on more devices and for more sports / games could mitigate that).
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loocas

Any word on whether Gdgt will have a live audio feed like at the iPhone 4 event?
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sam

no audio feed. just the best live blog on the interwebs :)
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waterworthr

don't think so
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loocas

Phoey. Thanks anyway.
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dave

Nope, probably never. Apple doesn't allow third parties to live stream audio / video from events (even if they're providing their own stream). It's a great way to be banned from all future Apple events!
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UncleMuscles

So no apps for the new Apple TV. That is pretty disappointing.
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relawnch

Maybe Apple TV will eventually turn into a Nintendo Wii competitor (have games as apps and integration with iTunes = Win). *wishes*
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Pusta

I do not think apps on the Apple TV would have been elegant. With the lag of the remote, how would you handle touch input for the Apple TV? Unless they had Apple TV only apps, but that could end up segmenting the App Store.
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dave

I feel you. Apps could potentially be killer on the TV! I'm happy they baked in Netflix though. It would have been ridiculous to launch without that.
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Cam

My predictions
iPod touch with front camera, maybe a back camera.
Tiny, touchscreen iPod nano.
iPod classic upped to 250GB
iTunes 10
Cloud iTunes.
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Cam

so far I'm 4 for 6..
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Cam

And I think it's gonna stay that way.
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Jchap01

I really liked the new nano but its not something I would buy. The new ipod touch is really nice. Basically the new iphone without ATT or 3G. Other then that everything else was mediocre.
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veronica

Why won't you get the nano then?
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Jchap01

Because I have a ipod touch, and probably will get the new ipod touch. I really see no need of having both devices. I prefer the Sansa Clip+ for my simple small devices. Yes it looks really nice, but if it would have has a decent camera in it then I think it would have been the perfect travel device. With something so small i think that would have been a something very useful.
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relawnch

Do they still not have FM Radio on the iPod Touch?
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relawnch

Does the streaming from the PC to Apple TV include streaming shows off other websites such as vimeo etc.? Or is it only streaming shows on your computer?
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moonmonkey

I honestly think the iPod Shuffle is a good return back to it's roots. The last revision was simply a case of miniaturization gone too far and innovation over function so it's good to see that Apple not only recognise that but also that people do indeed like the buttons on a screen-less device.

I don't really know what to make of the iPod Nano other than Apple must have gone back to the drawing board with that brief and taken it to it's logical conclusion given the technology available to Apple now.

It's a shame to see the silent (albeit , inevitable death of the iPod Classic), especially without a storage bump to 128GB on the iPod touch's part. I think getting one now would be wise if you need to get your insane music storage needs on. I currently have an 80GB iPod Video and I'm tempted.

AppleTV seems like a home run, perfect form factor, perfect price. Little suprised to see no storage whatsoever. Was expecting 16GB of Flash storage a la iPhone / iPod styley but oh well.

People moaning about lack of apps. I wouldn't worry just yet, it's rare Apple blow their load on 1 product revision. I imagine the next iteration of this will feature the apps people crave. Also I suspect that perhaps the studios weren't keen on the idea of having Hulu or the ABC app playable on a device that's intended for the TV and that might have been a clause with their rental deal.
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Dpmt

The classic lives. www.engadget.com­/2010­/09­/01­/confirmed­-the­-ipod­-cla...
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