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peter

Any questions about the Motorola Droid Bionic?

Motorola gave me one to check out for a few days, post your questions below and I'll try and answer them!

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leigh

I feel like I've been waiting for this phone forever. I've still got the original Droid and have been completely unable to decide what to upgrade to. The Bionic is one of the few phones that has come out that really seemed to have promise (and is on Verizon).

I am curious how you find the battery life to be... beyond that I think my other questions have been covered in this thread already.
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Brandon

The Bionic is an awesome upgrade for first gen Droid owners (like myself). That old Droid feels like an etch-a-sketch now compared to this.
Battery life in a 4G area is noticeably shorter than it was on my Droid. When in 3G areas is seems to be more comparable.
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jkibuule

Any idea why it took 8 months to get released? Was it even worth the wait at this point when you've got the excellent Samsung Galaxy S II coming soon?
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ranhalt

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peter

My sense is that they delayed it because they didn't want to release something that wasn't ready yet. If I had to guess, the main culprit was probably battery life, they talked a lot at our briefing yesterday about how big the battery was and how they'd improved performance with LTE.
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jkibuule

I guess I should ask what kind of battery life it gets then. Better than the Thunderbolt? How many hours of 4G surfing do you get? How long does it last when acting as a 4G mobile hotspot?

To be honest, I think 4G matters more for Verizon and Sprint because EVDO was at a dead end., capped at 1Mbps down. AT&T and T-Mobile's 3G can hit 3-5Mbps on a good day, which are respectable "tethering to laptop" speeds.
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leigh

I am wondering how the battery life is as well. So many of the 4G phones seem to have significant issues with this.
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kstagg

Just depends. I like my Motorola Photon because it is a world phone (although last time I was out of the country was 10 years ago on my honeymoon with 'da wife in Mexico). I also picked it up because of all the "the Galaxy S2 is coming!", "no it's not", "it's coming!" "no it's not" I was hearing on the blogs and I was tired of waiting. I'm glad I picked it up - fantastic phone. Engadget stated it was the one phone out that could challenge the GS2.
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kstagg

Apple lawsuits. Bastards are running scared.
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eddiefu

How does the screen compare to the SGS2's SAMOLED Plus display?
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peter

The SGS2's screen is definitely better, but the resolution is lower (WVGA vs QHD). Depends on what you care about most.
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jkibuule

But the qHD is PenTile! yuck.
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kstagg

I have had one for over a month on Sprint. It's called the Motorola Photon 4G, although I will admit Verizon's network is of course faster than Sprint's WIMAX, you just pay out the a$$ for it.
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nitehawk

It looks like a Moto Atrix clone except for Verizon. Solid, innovative, yet the design looks similar to Moto's line of somewhat boring devices since they all do the same thing. The docks look cool, I am just curious how well they actually work since Motorola is known for crappy user experience.

I know this sounds dumb, but as we hear more about 4G, is the speed legit right now? I am hearing that 4G is going to be faster than many home connections, yet I only see boring commercials promoting it similar to Best Buy's lame buyback program. In my book, if a company isn't promoting something it's likely not very good or not completely rolled out.

Living outside of Boston I have one friend who is on Sprint and swears by the 4G. However he also says his phone's battery dies very quickly when he's on it and I hear similar things from other websites. If 4G is now and legit, I see phones like this being very popular as long as people still like Motorola phones (HTC is a clear better choice in my mind).

It also looks a lot like the Droid 2, not sure if that's a problem though. From looking at the Engadget website the phone looks really cool and the app to let you stream media from your home pc/mac makes sense to compete is iCloud. The review says it's the thinnest 4G phone, how is the weight?
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jkibuule

Speeds are real. I've easily gotten 15/5 on my Verizon 4G Mobile Hotspot and it feels that fast too. Web videos load in seconds. And these are in some pretty crazy places like 30 feet underground of an industrial complex. However, we're still dealing with first generation chipsets, so you are trading speed for battery life. Honestly, if you aren't tethering your phone and are just randomly browsing the web, I'd stick to a 3G phone for now because you get few benefits for the cost (money and battery life) you end up paying.
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Avi

Real world speeds are insane - in areas with good signal, I get faster uploads and downloads than my cable modem at home. Verizon Wireless' LTE network is significantly faster than Sprint's WiMAX or AT&T's HSPA+ networks. Also, the faster network speeds do translate into faster web browsing on the phone; that holds true both for single core phones and dual-core phones like this one.
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peter

I just got 27 Mbps down / 6 Mbps up here in my apartment, which is absolutely insane when you think about it.
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leigh

Holy crap!!
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thegreatino

Supposedly the real life speeds for VZW 4G are legit as dagamer34 said. I had heard that one of the main focuses on the Bionic was to improve battery life while using 4G, it was one of the (many) reasons the phone was essentially redesigned since CES. So I guess we will have to see when full reviews come out doing some battery life tests.
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kstagg

I have the Photon 4G (essentially the Bionic) on Sprint and I can get through the entire day and into the next day no problem. The secret is to use the Battery and Data Manager built within Android 2.3 (not an inherently Motorola thang). It allows you to *...change their behavior to conserve data". You can do this for the: Browser, Gallery, Music, Email and Market.

So for example it will postpone downloads of large files until you are near an available WIFI network to conserve your battery. That is just one example of how the Data Manager can help conserve your battery life. I don't remember ever having that with the EVO, that's for damned sure.

As far as looks? I think the Photon is the best looking Android device out there. I'm just talking about before you turn the device on, you know it's a winner:

- Angular cut corners
- External Camera button
- Volume rockers & camera button have textured finish (nice touch)
- Soft-touch black and side finish
- Kickstand (how on earth did HTC forget that on the EVO3D?)
- Kickstand can stand in portrait or either position of landscape (to allow charging)

The Photon just looks like a world-class business phone, not like some teenager with multiple personality disorder like the HTC EVO3D. I should know - I traded in my EVO3D during the 31-day trade window for my current Photon.

One of the best tech decisions I ever made.
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kstagg

Up above, when I say I don't ever remember having the option of having the Battery and Data Manager for the EVO, I am referring to the EVO4G, just to clarify. I'm pretty sure it is on the EVO3D, even though it does not come shipped with 2.3.4 like the Photon. :) #ohsnap
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sehlhorst

Do you have a feel for the likelihood that this phone will be able to OTA to Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS)? If not - any Verizon Droid options out there (or soon to be, or rumored to be) that will have, or be upgradeable to ICS?

Which version of android will it launch with? Pure experience or Motoblur?

Thanks for the great site and thread!
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peter

I don't think any manufacturer has said anything about whether any handsets will get upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich -- though I could be mistaken here!

It has Android 2.3.4 and has a version of Motoblur similar to what shipped on the Droid 3.
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sehlhorst

For folks who would be willing to install a custom ROM, do you think this hardware is likely to be "good enough" to support ICS?

Thanks for the quick response, to my previous questions!
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ranhalt

New handsets are already in development and soon to be announced for the fall. After all the delay, the Bionic is only comparable to current devices like the DX2 and not setting any bars. Is this really something to consider buying (for enthusiasts) who are considering trend setters like the Galaxy Note?
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peter

I think if you are on Verizon and want an Android phone with LTE and QHD then the Bionic is a good option. Especially if you're interested in the whole webtop docking thing.
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tobiasg

How is the camera?
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Caputo023

It's a similar (if not the same) camera sensor that's found on the photon. Pictures look slightly grainy with some noise in average exposure settings.
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shul

Do you think this is going to be the last "Moto" phone?
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peter

No, not at all.
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fudlen

I'm always taking pics of my little ones and the iPhone 4 has been great as far as focus and shutter speeds. How do you feel the bionic compares as far as the camera?
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Avi

I'm not Peter, but I do have a Bionic, and the AF speed is incredibly slow. Image quality appears to be good, though colors are a bit washed out in the limited number of photos I've taken so far.
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fudlen

thanks, sounds like the bionic will be a great phone but for my camera needs i think i will wait and see how the next vzw samsung phone is (droid/nexus prime).
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peter

I'll back Avi up on this, the camera is slow. Maybe a bit better than with the Droid 3, but I wouldn't buy this thing for the camera.
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LittlePixels

I've like to know this as well. I'm tired of seeing sample pics of stationary objects in bright daylight. I'd love to know how it does with a moving child in indoor lighting.
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amarohl

My only question, is one that you probably can't answer yet: Trade in my DX for a Droid Bionic, or wait for everyone's unicorn, the Prime? (Have you heard anything on this coveted Prime?) I have a strong desire to finally make the jump to 4G, but want to make an informed jump!
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noblejohn

1) is it voice and data LTE and 2) What differentiates it from the Motorola Atrix?
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Avi

1) No. Voice is over CDMA. LTE is data-only.
2) Completely different (and much faster) network, for starters. Bionic also has a larger 4.3" display and some unique software that the Atrix didn't get.
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mshulman

Is there a "notification" LED on the front of the device? The manual makes no mention of it.
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Avi

Yes. (Mine's blinking now.)
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jefflee

I heard you can "easily disable" Moto Blur. Are you running it 'Gingerbread Classic' now? I'm currently running Droid 1 with Gingerbread (Cyanogen) and can't wait to get rid of it as it's now painfully slow. I'd really love a phone with 4x the processor of my current Droid running stock Gingerbread (plus 4G).
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peter

Because it's a review unit which I need to review I can't put another ROM on here, but you can use other launchers to get rid of Motoblur.
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jefflee

Oh. I was under the impression that it could be disabled somewhere in the settings, as in, you don't need to root it.
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PantsOnFire

No, you cannot disable the don't-call-it-MOTOBLUR interface. As Peter stated, you can use a different launcher, and you can also disable the animations entirely, which speeds the phone up a bit.
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roberto

Was it worth the wait?
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peter

You know, it does seem a bit anti-climactic now, but I think that if they hadn't announced the original version so early -- or had just let the name Bionic die and called this something else -- that it'd still be worthy of attention.
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binmujahid

How soon will Motorola get Android updates given the new acquisition by Google
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peter

Google doesn't own Motorola yet, it's going to be a long time until that deal finally closes.
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jigjags

so now you have had it for a while what is your verdict..?
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peter

I think it's a solid phone, but it's a bit on the large side and even though the battery life is better than I've seen on other LTE handsets, you still have to keep an eye on your usage if you want to get through an entire day.
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